got pulled over today

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by joenottoast, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    The guy that taught me everything I know about h2h combat is a state trooper, unbelievable fighting skills(I'd put my money on him vs. pretty much anyone, excluding professional fighters), and a warrior in the truest sense of the word. Wouldn't bust a kid for some weed, and imo, he's pretty much what all cops should aspire to be...

    I have another friend that's got a little over a year under his belt with a local PD, and the other day he admitted to basically not trusting cops, even the ones he works with...

    I think as time progresses the good ones are getting outnumbered by the bad ones.

    "Power attracts the worst and corrupts the best"-EA
     
  2. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    where are the good cops when their brothers in blue are brutalizing citizens? they are ignoring their oaths like cowards.

    easier to follow orders than to stand up for your conscious
     

  3. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Understandable, just my thing for not showing respect to someone/something. (even though its not proper grammar)

    I have some family in law enforcement and a lot of friends, yeah, there is curruption, but not everywhere. And yeah, you do have some errogant D heads out there!!! But, I think people just always need something/someone to blame. It's like the red light cameras. People complain when they run the red light and get a fine and blame it on the town/city/state. What about you running the red light? Anyway, just my two cents, not tryin to ruffle any feathers
     
  4. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Just google "cop arrested." They are being arrested by other cops.

     
  5. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    MIS: I won't get too deep into this again, cause I really don't have a dog in the fight, and it really is personally troubling that I feel the need to come to a cops defense because that is something I never thought I would do...

    But there is no more corruption in police forces then there are in every other aspect of human life and interaction. The government is corrupt, the school systems are corrupt, wall street is corrupt. There is the same amount of corruption everywhere.

    And I would say you under estimate the amount of work cops have to do, and the amount of BS that they encounter every day. I mean, city cops spend most of their time doing the worst jobs you can imagine. Putting gloves on and trying to wake up the homeless guy laying in an alley. Waking the junkies up and trying to move them somewhere. Walking a beat, asking the 13 year old kids why they are on the corner and not in school. Repsonding to BS domestic violence disputes. Responding to the junkie who just stole a pair of headphones from CVS.

    I mean, most of these cops are just people. And as far as the treatment of the citizens? I am not sure what incidents you speak of, cause generally, I don't EVERY hear about civil rights abuse on a REGULAR basis in this country. There are MILLIONS of cops. So, of course there are some sketchy ones. But there is an equal amount of sketchiness in every walk of life.

    I know, you would say "They signed up for it. They get paid to do it"... But when you have a job like that, and about 80% of your time in the field is spent going into situations with a gun drawn, not knowing the level on insanity the people you are responding to. I mean, sure, you are going to be a little more "Matter of Fact" to people.

    I had an incident with someone we do business with this past week. There was a dispute basically over one of our clients, and if he owns something or this store he went to does... Anyway, the sheriffs show up, one younger guy and one black lady, probably around 35 or so....

    They were OKAY, but as I would try and interject, the lady cop was like, "LET ME FINISH. I WILL TELL YOU WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN"... You knonw, pulling that "authority" card on me. It rubbed me the wrong way, but after she said what she had to, and I said what I had to... we both got a laugh and were actually joking with each other. SO, the point is, I dont think you understand how many LUNATICS every cop has to deal with on a regular basis. The reason the lady was forceful with her words, was not some weird power trip. It was because the last 10 people she talked to that day, were intoxicated, half naked, laying in their own filth and most of them uneducated and uncoherant. So, I excused her from her manors, and took it for what it was. She was dealing with a lunatic, that was wasting top cops time, but by law, they have to respond to this sh**.... All she wanted was to do her job and leave. And that was it.

    If you had to spend every day, dealing with the bottom of the barrel in our nation, which is primarily what cops do, you may get a little testy with people too....

    And another thing, don't every talk sh** to a cop. Cause they got a badge and a gun. I have witnessed friends thinking its funny to get a rise out of a cop, cause they "didn't do anything". Then next thing I know, they are face down on the hood of a cop car getting searched. They should have shut the fu** up. Cause they all have authority whether you like it or not, and even a dirty look is enough cause for them to give you some sh** right back....

    Again, I know you aren't an anarchist, but cops are nothing more than people. Some people suck. Some cops suck. Its just a numbers game.

    There is no entry exam into the police form to make sure you are a crooked, corrupt maniac.... That is just silly....

    And you also have to remember that these people have to work within the guidelines of the law. They have rules to follow. I mean, what are they supposed to do, when they know there is a drug dealer, with guns, hookers and crack in a house and they don't have a warrant. They find themselves not being able to do the right thing because of all the red tape involved. Then they have to make sure everything holds up in court, so they have to do sh** a certain way. With that being said, with that rationale, there aren't enough rouge cops. There arent enough cops breaking their own laws, just because if makes the community a better place.

    I don't care what the NAACP says about the Baltimore PD. If I was them, I would be out every night, sweeping the city and cracking heads on EVERY corner. All night. Everynight. Without even checking IDs. When you see them boys in blue coming, you should be very afraid if you aint doing the right thing. Instead, all these crinimals hide behind the red tape and know exactly how to toe that line because the cops can't touch them. I.E. storing their viles of crack in the flowerpot 10 feet away and having a 9 year old hand it out. So the cops can't do anything to the dealers... I mean, cops should be able to take one look at that, and snatch up EVERYBODY on the corner. Take the 9 year old in too and put him in a foster home...

    There aren't enough cops willing to break the rules in my opinion. Their level of trasnparency is HUGE compared to most.
     
  6. World B Free

    World B Free Well-Known Member

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  7. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Hahahahahahaha! Good eye WBF.
     
  8. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Bastards! Haha. Yeah, I think I actually type faster than I think. You got the idea though.
     
  9. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Zach, they are more corrupt as they are the watchdogs and can be more corrupt, please read about the Stanford prison experiment and you will see

    compare the effects of corruption in a convenience store or post office (stolen goods etc) to those on a police force (covered up murders)

    and bistater, good looks on the cops making arrests of cops
     
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  10. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    Dude, those big things with engines, well, ya have to try and avoid coming in contact with them. I know it is difficult, but with some practice, you too, can learn how to successfully cross the nations streets and roadways.

    I do offer classes in September if you are interested. I'll have you crossing streets safely in no time.

    SNARKY !!!
     
  11. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I will look into that study just to see whats up. And to your point there, I agree. There are various levels of corruption and the police happen to be in a situation, where their decisions can be of extreme consequences. I mean, cops make drugs busts and have to decide if they are going to report the $300,000 bucks they just found in a mattress, or was it really only $200,000. I think their over all corruption has a greater effect, so indeed it is more dangerous....

    But with thinking like that, I would say we should be far more worried about the Federal Government, the Military and Wall Street, than the cops. The cops are just the foot soldiers. They don't make decisions. They just follow orders.

    I mean, I get it, what would you do? You just busted some murderer and are sweeping his house. There is a brick of cash that you bump into. This could feed your family for a few years, and this scum bag murderer wont miss it, he is going to jail. It would just go to lockup anyway....

    Do you stuff it down your pants, or do you turn it in... Regular people have to make those choices every day. Sometimes they probably make the wrong call. But sometimes, a Tuesday at work means they will never see their family again. They report to that domestic violence call, and the crazy drunk Husband fires shots while they are still in the yard....

    I don't trust ANYONE really. I just think cops are no worse than anyone else. We have to give SOMEONE the authority to govern our people, unless you want to do it. Good luck without a gun and a badge.
     
  12. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    No way, man. The "MUSLIM EXTREMIST" isn't a "boogieman" created by the American government. Those people have been problems forever. They don't even get along with themselves, and are nothing but trouble.

    We f'ed up by engaging in a non-conventional war with an enemy who wears no uniform. What we should have done was pit them even more against themselves, and then swooped in to eradicate the mess leftover.

    That's hundreds of years of bad blood and sectarian and religious-based conflict going on over there. Some of them countries needed a dictator to keep the animals in line. They are horrible people who fantasize of a theocracy that would never survive, much less prosper.

    Muslims suck. They make the commies and the Germans look sane.There's always got to be somebody creating strife in the world.

    Yeah, yeah some cool guys can act like America is this big bad entity. And yeah, I have problems with our laws and elected officials, but in the scheme of it all America is a good place with leaders who aren't completely devoid of a sense of morality.

    We do a lot of good in the world. We feed people, and we give financial aid to the freakin world. We are not the great Satan. And no matter what conspiracy theories people want to assign to each American military excursion, at the heart of it, our hearts were in the right place. We tried to help people

    Yes, capitalism is flawed, but it's the best thing going. People are people, and they are going to exploit sh!t. But for all of these idealogues out there who think they can find a better way.....well it's kind of hard to manage and keep some semblance of order for a large society.

    We didn't do sh!t to Muslims - no alterior motives - until they attacked us. The War on Terror isn't some conspiracy to take away American liberties. Yeah, Haliburton profited and stuff, but that's just the powerful extracting some gravy from the situation. Those types are going to do what they do.

    Behind all of America's interventions in the world, the basic reason is humanitarian.

    And I'd love to hear how anyone on here as been personally affected by all these rights we have lost since The War on Terror began. That's all BS.
     
  13. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    Oh, and the dudes who complain aboot cops on here, would probably be the first ones to call them when they hear a bump in the night.

    I love it how some dudes on here are so terrorized by the police. Most dudes on here probably have never even had a speeding ticket.

    I used to do things where I was at constant risk for police involvement. I was lucky and didn't have too much interaction with them. But in reality, most were pretty cool.

    The Outer Banks cops are the worst pieces of dung around. LBI cops are freakin pseudo-tough guys who wouldn't last a day in a real hood. Philly cops are cool as hell.

    See alot of y'all get intimidated ( and that's understandable) by when the cops bark loudly and try and do things they aren't really allowed to. You just can't let them play that again, but that comes with experience with them. Plus, people on here, myself included, haven't really done anything that's really serious. So, cops really aren't that big of an issue.....well, they shouldn't be.
     
  14. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    Here's a little microcosm of cops (correctional officers) that I found while in the county jail:

    One-third of them are cool. They treat you like a human beings.

    One-third of them are robots. It's just a job to them. They have no personal involvement or prejudices in the whole thing. They just put on their uniform and show up for 8 hours. Yeah, a lot of them tend to be in bad moods but it's nothing personal.

    The other third are complete douche bags, who get their jollies hassling people and showing off their "power." Some of them live for that sh!t. And they are actually more pathetic then the inmates, as that's what motivates them to wake up in the morning. They are pieces of garbage. Yeah, F You Johnson in the ACJF. They are sad, sad, people.
     
  15. World B Free

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  16. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    I learned from our government long ago,the best way to take over a country....wait for it...lol...civil war.u get the enemies to destroy themselves,and u come in afterwards and take what u need.hitler screwed up by not getting Russia to destroy themselves,we won,as in America won.

    im not scared of terrorists at all.the videos they show u on fox news,cnn,etc looks real crazy and scary,but tell me how they are going to get to America.u cant even take a toothbrush on a plane,but somehow mohammad and the towel fukhead bunch can make it through with shoebombs or boxcutters or whatever.its a huge waste of money if u ask me.too many agencies to deal with.

    as far as humanitarian aid goes,well ummmm il wait for it.tell me what country we ever went to to actually help the people out.i can tell u it wasn't Iraq,wasnt Afghanistan,wasnt Lebanon,wasnt panama.

    do u know,this is a true story btw,we don't even try to hide out.i don't remember what the whole ordeal was about in Beirut,but we were trying to take out some terror kingpin,so we put out contracts,and we actually blew up a car bomb,killed over 70 people,mostly women and children,and it turned out the person we tried to blow up was actually clean,not a terrorist but a well respected dr or some shyt in the community.either way tho we missed the target,so the innocent terror guy lived by over 70 women and children perished.

    operation "just cause" we can lol,the invasion of panama.we actually sent in delta force,this was actually on the ahc the other day,which is the new military channel,to rescue a covert spy we had in the country,we literally broke this mothafuka out of prison!!!!how fukin illegal and gangster is that?like what if al keda comes down to prison in florida or some shyt,blows the shyt up and releases a bunch of terrorists?the whole thing was about noreiga seizing bush sr money in Panamanian banks,drug money at that.dont believe me lol,another true story America doesn't even try to hide it.

    im not really a conspiracy person,but im not retarded either and anyone with a brain,2 working eyes,and willing to read can find out all this shyt plus more.i don't even like talking about this crap because its so old,its like talking about the wild thornberrys or something.

    with the humanitarian aid bs,why wouldn't we go save Africa in Liberia and sierra leone?u think isis and al queda is bad,il take them anyday over some African rebels.u vote we chop ur hand off,we chop ur arm off just for the fun of it.now those people seriously needed humanitarian aid,but no well pass lets go to Iraq,they have oil!!
     
  17. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    Iris was the queen b!tch of the Atlantic County Justice Facility.

    How can I slide on, World B? Hasn't been anything over a foot-and-a-half in almost two weeks. Had a slight hope for it to be pushing waist-high today, but was foiled once again.

    And you guys who said last summer was flat........how do you like me now? Plus, my sandbars aren't doing their thing like they did the past three summers, so I'm not even getting that extra wedge this summer.

    This fall will be pretty good. This winter will be so-so. You heard it here first. This summer is going to be FLAT. You'll be happy to see anything over two foot this July.
     
  18. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    yea that's true for co's,same for cops.i have met some really cool cops in my day,met more shytbirds tho.my cousins old classmate is an Irvington sgt,and we smoked weed in his house while building him a bar(my cousin does home remodeling shyt),he didn't smoke but talked a lot about stupid potheads.

    co's now lol,some are cool some are some real hardasssssis.like I had a co that used to bring me the paper everyday when he was done,even brought in some magazines for me.the real hardcore ppl doing time and cool with the co's.the cos bring in ciggs,liquor,drugs,etc.

    now u cross a co,and expect a ride to the hospital via helicopter.i havnt witnessed it personally but heard many tales from my bros that did time.once a co pushes that button u are done for.no need to try to fight a co,u are in their house and they will beat u half to death.another co I heard about,some guy named pops,hes an oldhead ,master freemason,and the lt,sgt,all the high rankers bow down to this angry oldman.another guy I heard about don't recall his name,but he wanted complete silence during his shift.if u sneezed he would scream at the top of his lungs,shut the fuk up!!!!I made the mistake of swinging off an a co,luckily it was county and not prison,worst beating I ever had in my life.my head was slammed to the floor instantly splitting my head wide open on a dirty jail floor,and the worst choked out I ever been.i remember trying to scream at the top of my lungs "I cant breathe!!!!!" nothing came out.thats why I know when someone screams they cant breathe,bullshyt.I know..its a surreal feeling because u cant fight it and u start to let go after a minute,plus with all the adrenaline ur burning that oxygen way faster.nothing worse than being completely suffocated
     
  19. Ghost of SJB

    Ghost of SJB Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2014
    Cep, we feed and hand out money to the entire world. We are always there when natural disasters hit. We try, even at the expense of our own citizens who have it just as bad as many third world residents.

    When you really look at things, in the entire scope, we are really a nice country.

    I don't know of any examples where we caused a civil war in another country in order to rape them afterwards.

    Germany made no attempt to entice Russia into a civil war and they had a scenario to do so.....maybe - The whole communist vs capitalist thing. But they had no intention of doing so. That would have called for patience on the part of Germany and theys was into the Lightning War.

    Yes we did go to help other countries. We tried to keep Korea free of communist/Chinese take over. Same thing in Vietnam. Both situations we tried to help the southern portions of each country from being taken over by communists.

    No matter what reason were prominent in doing so, we did try and free the Iraqi people from a dictator. We helped Kuwait from being taken over by Iraq. I could keep going on. No matter what, at the very basis of it all, all our military excursions could be tied to doing "the right thing" without Spike Lee's approval. Yes, there were other alterior motives and people capitalized on the scenarios for their own profit, but.........oh well what can you do?

    Dude, we never just go in and take over for bad reasons. Shoot, we haven't even won a war in ages.

    And in our latest military exploits we are way tooooo cautious aboot collateral damage. That's why we never win anymore.

    Hey when we are depended on to be the world's policeman and everybody counts on us for aid in times of crisis we get a certain privilege to do what we need to do.
     
  20. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Take in the cliff's notes version of the Quran sometime and you will see why that book is so dangerous to every non Muslim in the world. It is some scary sh**, because if that book is followed, literally, like it is by the extremists, they will never stop until the rest of us don't exist.

    And all of our recent wars are the same. It's a "noble idea", jam packed with about 80% of other agendas, packaged as a war for freedom so that the tax payers don't flinch, and we mark our troops in to do good, meanwhile, behind closed doors, we roll out any political agendas that may favor our government and we get to work... Nothing wrong with it really. It's called international politics. The Haliburton stuff was over the top. Everything was over the top in those days. The world is a war for profit world. Has been for many years. If the Iraq situation was handled better, a lot of honest, american companies could have done very well over there, all while helping the Iraqi people...

    I have said, from day one, we never should have taken Saddam out of power. He was a necessity. Or someone like him. Just like the Cartel leaders in Mexico. Without someone running checks and balances, things only get worse. Sometimes the best way to keep an entire country, split in 3 from killing each other, is making examples of them. You try and kill, you will be killed. It was working for him.