All of our waves are under the surface, I guess.

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by chicharronne, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
  2. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    there have been a few days that I missed surf on but I've only surfed 3 times in the last 2 months. I don't count last sunday because it was an absolute wind blown mess and I just wanted to get into the water.
     

  3. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
  4. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

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    May 20, 2011
    Nailed it. I kept one afloat until the guards got out there 4th of July weekend. Hid dreads must of held 2 gallons of water. Even the kids in the family had B. Marley worthy dreads. They guy outweighed me by 30+ lbs. and tried a rear naked choke bear hug and scratched my chest all up. Then I had to push him off me to regrab him from another direction.

    Not one thank you or head nod was given. They may not have noticed who it was due to the confusion but still...

    Lifeguards got no thanks either.
     
  5. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    VB has many visitors, and the small surf which we have been experiencing for a good portion of the summer may appear very safe to those unfamiliar with the ocean. But we have had some choppy days, including several with red or yellow flags posted.
    As an aside, I've noticed a lot more SUPs in the water and on vehicles this summer.
     
  6. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    I'm not expecting a beach like VB to reasonably be closed much or ever, but does anyone within the influence of authority think those numbers are excessive? Almost 100 in a matter of a couple days?! I mean is every third person who steps into liquid needing a rescue?? If it's that hazardous (as denoted by folks inability in the water) then shouldn't it be looked at as something that's a danger to the general public? Yes, I'm opening a can of worms here and a problem not easily solved, but how about a swim/water treading test to get the right to go in the water? It would take manpower but triple digit rescues is a far bigger misallocation of manpower. I'm not saying let them drown, I'm saying keep these life kooks out of the damn water. Sounds no better than a lemonade stand giving out bags of smack in the hood.

    Andddd here comes SJB out of the woodwork now that his favorite topic has hit the air again.
     
  7. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    hey congrats on your humanitarianism; even the thankless kind. and yes thats EXACTLY what i'm talking about.
     
  8. cgrizzard

    cgrizzard Well-Known Member

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    Aug 13, 2010
    Probably has something to do with the obnoxious shore break (after they did the most recent round of beach replenishment on the north end). It gets a little squirrely trying to get back to shore when it goes from 6 ft to 1 ft deep in a matter of a few steps.
     
  9. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

    900
    May 20, 2011
    ^^This and when the red flags are flying they let people in up to their knees which happens to be about 3-4 ft. from where the shorebreak is dumping. Tourons get smashed then ragdolled into the trough right off the beach. They can't stand and said shorebreak is sucking back out to sea and panic ensues.
     
  10. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Next time approach him from behind, knock him out, and drag him in by his nappy dreads. And demand a Marley sized blunt from his fambily as payment for his soggy ass.
     
  11. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Timing is everything
     
  12. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

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    May 20, 2011
    Do you think I'd get in trouble if I did this BEFORE he got himself into trouble?? :)
     
  13. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I have actually swam up behind big doofuses who are yelling for help, and tell them if they cooperate and do what I say, and calm down, I will get them in safely. And I tell them "Don't make me knock you out and drag you in by your ears." It has always worked. Once they are in full panic mode you better hope you have a float, a board, a stick, something to keep them off you, while you try to save their dumb ass. It's when you have a whole family freaking out at the same time, that's when things get dicey. Bring a buddy out who can help. Don't be a dead hero.
     
  14. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    It's amazing the degree to which presence of mind reigns supreme in the water. So much of this sh!t is psychological. Good job goose and si...it's quite the paradox b/c these are the people that would get weeded out by Natural Selection, yet we save them. Even myself, as misanthropic as I am, I just can't not help if I see someone in trouble.
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    ^^^ THIS!!! Makes it all better :)
     
  16. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    THEY never did replenishment on the N end. In the 70's you could check the break at 80th st from the street. They got all their sand build up from the beach washing away in the resort. After the took the "storm" (schitt) drain out at 79th, No more sandbars. If you look at the cams on 83-86 st, the water line is where the outside break was.

    I was surfing alone in Corrolla when a beach ball was being blown out by the offshore. As it went by me I saw it was a kids head. He calmly yelled "Help." then added "Please". By the time I got to him, we were in the shipping lanes. I chastised his dad when we got in. He walked up in his nut huggers, shining all oily. Before he could say anything I said, "This isn't a fugging swimming pool azzhole" and then shoved his son down in front of him and kicked sand in his face.
     
  17. Alvin

    Alvin Well-Known Member

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    Dec 29, 2009
    AS a surfer I've rescued numbers of people who got caught in a rip. It seems like nothing to us but when they panic you know they're in trouble. I forget how tourists rarely, if ever get to be even near the ocean. Glad to help.
     
  18. Losttsol

    Losttsol Well-Known Member

    517
    Feb 18, 2013
    Ya, getting rid of the 79th Street setup really killed the Northend. I was told by an old-timer that there used to be a little wash out around 47th-48th Street. Went from Crystal Lake all the way to the ocean. Of course this was filled in way before anyone really surfed probably, but still sucks.

    Here's a map of VB from the 1600s that shows what VB used to look like. The Northend was on an island.

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    Last edited: Jul 25, 2014
  19. ONLY_ELIPTICAL_SHAPES

    ONLY_ELIPTICAL_SHAPES Active Member

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    Jul 22, 2014
    This is the right and ethical thing to do. Though interestingly in most states there is no legal obligation for a bystander to engage in rescue. So you could just watch 'em drown...
     
  20. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Rescues can get ugly. My buddy, who is a professional ocean rescue lifeguard for many years, just got a hernia from lifting a 300 lb. lady out of the shorebreak. She was getting repeatedly pounded, and he got tore up dragging her out. Picture that scene in your minds eye. Yuk.