Yeah, years went by before I realized that ANY mexicans even surfed. Had to paddle out through a spot like this once and our "guide" explained that people have died from surfing there, and the death came on the sand.... I asked no more questions.... He told us not to even make eye contact. There is a world class spot about 400 yards from it, but that particular one was "locals only"... And in a third world country, that doesn't mean wax on your window.
I've surfed Dog beach in OB, and Sunset Cliffs and both were pretty mellow when I was there. Actually had some of the locals hooting for me when I caught some larger set waves. But, I am sure they have their days. A few years back at Indian river Inlet there was some storm off the coast so the waves were pretty decent size. This younger grom was surfing next to me, I didn't see him do anything wrong, but these 3 other kids about his age (15/16 ish) kept talking smack to him. I could see he was getting nervous because he was out numbered. So as the kid is sitting next to me, I said pretty loud to him, "Are they giving you any problems?". HA HA HA, not like I am some bad ass and I am going to fight some kids, but they were really being a-holes to the little guy and I felt bad for him. He smiled and I could see he felt relieved, he said, thanks. The kids pretty much left him alone after that. I've had words with people, but nothing has ever escalated.
That's surprisingly to hear at Zippers...it's a pretty popular spot. Very unfortunate. US should invade Baja and seize it from Mexico. It's really kind of part of California anyway. California is too crowded now. Lots of land in Baja.
I beg to differ,california is actually part of mexico.think about it san jose san padre san clemente san diego san Francisco lol I don't think I need to continue.la jolla lol,I always thought it was pronounced jolla,instead of hoya. I never been to Baja,been to the mainland 3 times,baja seems to close to the narco violence and I seen too many videos of Mexicans doing heinous shyt.id rather be captured by isis while burning a Koran then get caught in the middle of the desert by a cartel.
While still earning my local status at HB Pier 15 years or so ago, I had some crazy MF'er drop in on me and start yelling I was on *his* wave, even though he was at least 15-20 yds in front of me (i.e. I should have been the one calling him out.) We start verbally going at it and he paddles over and gets up and sits on the nose of my board. He was sort of a portly fellow so I just leaned forward a bit and he slipped off. We verbally scrapped a bit more but that was that. Never came to blows. About 3 days later though I was checking out a fishing vest at this garage sale down the street and lo-and-behold it's the dude's house. He gave me this...look... and was like "you can have that, dude." Okay... HB was a weird place.
Hah!! Now you and your friend look even worse. First you said: "He clumsily tried to get to his feet and came right towards my buddy who was paddling back out and yelling at him not to go." Now you say he "just finished a wave and was ready to come back out." Sure sounds like you and your buddy were floundering in the take-off zone. Surf Etiquette 101. The rule is that if you are paddling out (or floundering on the inside) you either paddle far enough down the line that you don't impede the surfer or your take the wave on your head, so you don't impede the surfer. Either way, if you are on the inside your job is not to impede the surfers who are catching waves. Next time instead of yelling at the surfer trying to take off late or in the critical section of the wave (which is what he is supposed to do) you may want to ride the whitewater to the beach. Then walk far enough down beach so you can paddle out with out being a hazard.
Ok guys keep me coming. Laughable conversation fight or dudes getting beat up share em. Sincerely, kookonicphoniks
seeing all this talk about etiquette is pretty funny,when I started surfing there wasn't really surf forums and surfline and shyt,maybe there was idk I didn't have internet back then but somehow everytime I paddled out from the start,i always paddled out way down shore away from other surfers and let the current take me to the spot,and I never paddled out head on towards the lineup.i always thought it was common sense,but seeing all these posts about not knowing how and where to paddle out is weird.its like when ur walking through the mall and u approach 12 people in a group and your by yourself, do u walk through the entire group like a kookdouchecanoe or do u have common courtesy and walk around?its not rocket science,some people make it out to be so much harder than it actually is,i think its best for newbs to not read these sites and go paddle out and learn on their own at an uncrowded spot.
My Russian friends were following us back from a sesh that stretched past sundown. The kook in the street had beef with us in the lineup and followed us and tried to start something. He got dealt with and my Russian homeys got it all on vid. I'm the one with the big nose, first out of the van. [video=youtube;aBWI6CHfoBg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBWI6CHfoBg[/video]
and the weird thing was ive actually surfed there a handful of times on other trips down there and never had a problem. its been crowded and had little local rippers drop in on me, but this threw me way off.