To repair or not to repair

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by titsandpits, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    Have a completely snapped in half 9'2" strive 2+1... This board used to be my bae but now shes been collecting dust in the garage but I want to revive this ole girl. Ill be putting pics up in about 10 mins so stayed tuned but Im not sure if I should have her professionally repaired or make it a self-project and turn it into a small fu** around board. Bought her new for like 710 about 9 months ago. some of you advanced board repair/shapers your opinion would be great if shes fixable or not
     
  2. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    why does uploading pics take so long..
     

  3. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Pics....

    Question, how many repairs have you done?
     
  4. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    tough one. For me, I wouldn't repair it...guess I'd just donate the pieces to groms, so they can get a custom.
     
  5. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    Here they are
     

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  6. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    I have done zero full repairs but Ive done a bunch a dings and a few snapped noses.. few friends have done a couple repairs with a full snapped board and they suggest I make it into a beater board looking thing but A) I don't have all the sanding equipement and B) I really don't wanna let her go if I don't have to
     
  7. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Mini Simmons that thing man!
     
  8. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    1st 2 pictures are lower half of board, bottom of deck
     
  9. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    Here's one more
     

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  10. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    So f*ck it, you can do it man. But it's gonna cost ya- as far as repair goes, anything remotely extensive, you need two things: shaping stand and sander. I use a cheap orbital palm sander from Harbor Freight, it was 20/30 bucks, it does the job once you get used to handling it. You can return it within 90 days too, haha.

    I don't really see a way to do this right without spending at least 50/100 bucks and two or three days, depending on what you have on hand.
     
  11. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I've fixed a few snapped longboards like that for friends or myself. It IS fixable for sure. I wouldn't spend the money to have it professionally done. I dont know what the going rate is for that kind of a repair, but I cant imagine anyone being willing to do it for under $150-$175 considering how much work is involved.

    If you're up for a big messy headache you could do it yourself if your know your way around board repairs. There are plenty of step-by-step broken board repair tutorials online. If you know your way around resin and glassing, you can do it and the board will be a bit heavier and less flexible that it used to be.

    If the front half of the snapped board is more than 4 feet long you could make a little 4' (or whatever) x 22" x 3" mini simmons type board that might be fun for someone in small waves, but again...messy time consuming project. You would have to strip most of the glass off the board to refoil it, reglass it.

    All lousy options IMO.
     
  12. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Haha, I feel like you have shown us this exact same board a couple months ago... Just off the dome here, it doesn't look like enough real estate on the back end of that board to do much of anything.

    I believe it was Mitchell who gave some solid advice on this post the first time, otherwise it was an almost identical situation/board, but he advised using some kind of braces/stringers to insert into each side for some added stability and mend the thing back together as a long board.

    I dunno. Sounds like a super fun project, but I don't see how you are going to get anything out of that. What is it snapped at, like the 4" mark from the tail?

    I just don't see any real application for any kind of hybrid out of that. Then again, wasting time repairing and making it all pretty again, then the thing snaps on your first chest high day, that would be a bummer too.

    Might be time to turn it into a bench or something.
     
  13. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Well, there you have it. Solid advice comes through from Mitchell while I was typing.

    Mitchell: You think he can make a simmons out of that end piece? Rounded off that thing looks like it would be all of about 3.5 ft long.
     
  14. all4blues

    all4blues Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2013
    That repair done professionally should be around the $100-$125 mark. Anything more than that is too much. You could do it yourself but it'll def. be noticeable if your not experienced. So do you want to invest hours of sweat and elbow grease and end up with a novice fix, but gain the experience points and knowledge for future fixes? Or drop some $ and make sure its done right and pass on the chance to learn something? Not really a right or wrong answer.
     
  15. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    It is fixable but that looks like a real pain.

    That thing is in bad shape if it was just popped in half it would be a do able fix but all the glass that is gone is a pain.

    I think you either have a project to put it back together and reglass it. PROJECT. Lots of cloth and resin is needed.

    Professional guy is going to charge you a lot, I have no doubt it would come back a rideable useable board.



    Sorry to see that.

    Up to you, you can chip away at it and put it back together when you feel motivated and have another board to ride at the end. I think if you try to mini simmons it you will be disappointing and it will be a lot of labor.

    Personally I would consider putting that in a garbage can or donating it for art or putting it back together.
     
  16. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    You're probably right....I just don't see how the board repair guys are willing to do it for that kind of money.

    The way I see it there are at least 6-7 major steps to putting it back together, probably more like 8. they all have to be done separately while the resin sets up.

    - trim out all of the foam / glass debris to get the break point cleaned up.
    - reattach the halves and wait for that resin to set up.
    - router in a re-inforcement of the connection (could be stringer material, fin rope) wait for the resin to set up.
    - reglass the repaired section of the board. wait.
    - hotcoat the repaired section of the board. wait.
    - sand out the hot coat
    - professionally done, there is a paint step in there.
    - lots of clean up/touch up/sanding at various stages.

    If each of these step takes one hour, were talking about an 8+ hour messy, toxic job, that after you factor in materials means you might be clearing $10/hour. Pretty cheap labor for skilled work involving hazardous materials.

    Zach - only the front half could make the mini simmons if its long enough which it probably isn't - the back half doesn't have enough rocker or width in the tail.
     
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  17. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    These guys in Rhodie charge $180 and up for a snapped longboard.
    http://dingshack.com/surfboard-repair/surfboard-repair-price-sheet/

    Mitchell, when you fixed the snapped boards, you never put the dowels into the foam in order to join and add strength? I always figured that method, along with the anti-twist scaffolding, was the best route. But fortunately, I haven't had to make this repair yet.
     
  18. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2012
    thanks a lot guys for all the advice and answers I think im on the fence for either A) droppin some pater down and letting a professional fix it or B) save it for the future and make a sick table out of one piece and hang the other piece up or make some kind of art out of it... I have the money saved up to where I can drop 200 on this to guys who know what their doing and bring her back to life almost 100%. (I know 100% isn't realistic but darn close to it) I just love to cruise longboards and funboards every now and then but my funboard is too short for me to really walk it (bought funboard for cheap in a bind to take the ole snappers place) haven't ever got a board professionally done cause ive always did minor stuff myself.. anyone have a recommendation where to go to or whom to call? im in the ocean county area but ill travel to Monmouth or close surrounding counties.. I was talking to some older guy in the lineup a few months back in bayhead and blah blah told him about my board said he'd fix it for a buck 25. he gave me his business card and hes out of point pleasant his names Russell terranova, he seamed like he knew what he was talking about
     
  19. titsandpits

    titsandpits Well-Known Member

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  20. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Yeah I have put dowels resined into the foam across the snapped section to add strength to snapped boards. But I question how much strength they actually provide considering they are anchored into nothing but foam. I mean if that board is stressed enough right where the dowels are, I would think before the dowel breaks, the foam would just deform internally around the dowel like crazy.

    I would still put something structural across the break, but would concentrate on wrapping several layers of 6 oz cloth around the rails across the break for a strength component that is more bonded to a large area of the board to distribute the stress over a larger area.