Worst forecast ever?

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by Wick, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Bro. No one badly missed a forecast. But you sure as schitt missed a more than decent swell.

    Others can back me up on this...

    Just because the plus sets were advertised as HH-OH (tops, I can't be sure it even said that high yesterday; maybe a few days out) doesn't mean at all that it was a "HH-OH forecast". It was a stomach to shoulder forecast with HH+ plus sets.

    Hampton in general yesterday definitely got stomach to shoulder with HH+ plus sets at several spots. You and the softies were thankfully not at those.

    Learn to scout waves bro. You had all you needed for Information Age data to get stoked and score yesterday. You just seem to be wanting an app for everything in your life so you aren't burdened by autonomy and decisiveness.
     
  2. frost

    frost Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    having planned and taken the day off i can say the forecast was spot on for Isle of palms..morning was waist and glassy..this built by mid afternoon high tide there were some overheads coming in..so much soany of the surfers struggled to duck dive through them to get out..many boards were flung up in the air. many has some really nice long rides though. the forecast for me pointed me to the optimum day to take vacation and it was priceless
     

  3. Wick

    Wick Member

    12
    Sep 18, 2014
    Relax, have a beer, it's Friday :)
     
  4. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Wick, you kinda brought some of this on yourself, the forecast didnt miss, you did. there were waves of that size (HH) within Hampton area yea? and you went to the one popular spot instead of exploring yea? so....you missed it.....
     
  5. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    In general, hurricane swells are going to offer more error in the forecasts, because, well, they are just harder to get proper wind data from. But, all in all, the Swellinfo forecasts for Eduardo were actually pretty on target for most areas. I would say, that the swell filled in later then was forecasted on Wednesday (which is consistent with previous hurricane forecasts with the GFS winds), but peaked Wednesday and faded on Thursday very on target with predictions.

    When I say, the forecasts were on point, I am primarily comparing predictions with buoy data. As with any long period swell, you will see much variability from spot to spot as there is generally much more refraction along the coastline. Also with long period swells, surf heights will be more tidally dependent. So, you will often see dramatic changes between tides.

    My point of the post is not to defend the Swellinfo forecasts, but just to express the intricacies of the forecasting, and in particular hurricane forecasts. When you understand the intricacies better, you will be better prepared for your next trip. One of the best things to do, is always compare the swell forecast with what is showing on the nearby buoy. This will give you an indication whether the forecast is over/under calling.

    If your only interested in being spoon fed the information, then your going to strike out a bunch, when others are scoring. And, if you hate the free forecasts on Swellinfo, then you have some other options, but I think you'll find your are better off on Swellinfo.

    Lets hope the tropics still have some energy left... In my opinion, October and November are the best months on the East Coast. Stronger frontal systems, tropical storms that become hybrid monsters. I love Fall!
     
  6. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    and if nothing else, take the time to learn a new spot if your 1st option doesn't work out...still haven't figured out my second spot and i went there any way as there were upwards of 40+ occupying my reg with 2 great peaks and one so-so (plus with tide shifts i knew it would be iffy anyway, talked to a guy out at the second spot & he confirmed my guess)

    it was fairly closed out at the second option spot...but so, so quiet and peaceful. and i got to take a lot of risks on the close-outs i wouldn't have had the option to at a crowded line up...the couple poundings i took off a 4-5 ft lip made it all worth it! left side rib cage (like the inercostal area) is still sore from one of the tumbles i took...but hey, i got to take risks and learned more about my second option...

    bottom line...your experiences are only negative if you choose to view them through a negative scope...

    on that note, it's 3-4 ft forecast @ 6 sunday & 70* air + 60* water...you better believe i'm on it...probably wouldn't hit that in JAN/FEB unless i was surf starved, but i think the crappy conditions make you better for the good conditions. take what it is and what you get, and adapt your approach

    ohhh, AND if you're a cross-referencer as i am, you'd notice that magic, surfline, NEsurf, & surf-forecast were all "off" (your words, not mine)
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2014
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    A very solid and just response
     
  8. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
    Eduoard did not disappoint here on Cape. This picture does not depict size, as it was not necessarily one of the bigger ones, but we had quality and no unhappy customers. Personally, one of the better sessions of the year.

    Edouard2.jpg
     
  9. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    lol what are u Hawaiian,best comeback ever.

    im gonna show up at the beach when its the swell of the decade,triple overhead and go up to all the surfers and be like theres a little bump out there lol.when the wedge is 30ft and job is calling 6-8ft,thats pretty funny them Hawaiians are stuck in the metric system
     
  10. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    kids are spoiled nowadays I remember when surf reports didn't exist.now all u have to do is go online and there 30different sites with different reports.all I have to do is watch which way the flags are blowing on the coast,we can have swell,but without the right wind its pointless
     
  11. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    that makes two of us....I missed this swell, had to work...and I'm my own boss...so, i couldn't use the pooped my pants excuse.

    Any day in the ocean is better than a day not.

    To the OP....if anything, learn from it...set yourself up to be better prepared the next time..nobody scores all the time....
     
  12. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
    Right on, KB, right on.
     
  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    That pretty much sums it up... SI said chest high sets for Thursday morning with offshore winds, and it was exctly that where I was. "Worst forecast ever?" No.

    Thanks, brother...
     
  14. Wick

    Wick Member

    12
    Sep 18, 2014
    SI_Admin: excellent info, and good point that the more investigation a person does on their own, the better informed they are.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2014
  15. Wick

    Wick Member

    12
    Sep 18, 2014
    peace
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2014
  16. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Bro. It took you til page 11 of the tread to finally listen to that point? You were told that from page 1.

    War.
     
  17. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    Wow. 12 pages of debate ... over what?

    Lots of good points in this little novella of a thread, MIS/DPsup made up (you gotta admit those FLA pics looked good), and Micah gave OP a nuanced reality check. Peajay must be spoiled because Bassmon and all the other NYers were very happy with Uncle Eduardo's gifts. Hope you caught something Peajay.

    There was swell in the water along the entire coast. If you missed out, it's your choice, and your fault. I made a trip myself two days in a row and I was rewarded with waves all day; I surfed for two days until sunset in a welcoming, cheerful, and competent lineup. Good vibes for all. It's a shame anyone could see such negativity in this- how spoiled can you guys get? I'm pretty sure Zach is one of the best surfers on here and he had a great time, so anyone who is b*tching should just quit.
     
  18. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    I did get a couple good ones thanks. I get to surf a lot so yeah I'm spoiled. The surf was good it was just really long lulls. So I got out and fished.
    Im not complaining.
     
  19. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    ....like "NOR-IDA".....xtrop entity couple octobers back...
    AC BEST EVER.....4/6 ft clean, 200 yard smokers, morn so good afternoon it got better....
     
  20. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    Yeah, I figured. When I said "caught something," I actually meant, I hope you caught some fish... haha.

    There's a ton of fish jumping around out west right now, so I've got to imagine it's not too hard to catch something good further east ... But I don't know sh*t about saltwater fishing. I've always wanted to learn to catch Stripers.