Gull Wing BLEF fin

Proof positive, once again, that no one in academia or in the fossil dustbin collection business has to be all that intelligent to be in charge.

 

As in the toilet bowl flow.

Here's all you have to know for product review by an objective source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7o79dqpjGI

 

I don't think his reviews are made up either. I do think they are from friends who he gives these to for free to ride so of course they will likely give a good review. And no we don't ask anyone else for proof of thier data but to be a fair I have not seen Whisky Malitia try and sell a hoodie for $500,000 either, and I have yet to see any other shaper on here post a link to buy their boards. The SI Shapers post their creations for others enjoyment and discussion. Roy posts his stuff for free advertising period end of discussion.

But hell since Roy got Charley Boo Boo to shell out a couple hundred for his plans I guess trolling SI did pay off for him.

 

If something costs a grand then yeah, we want science. Million bucks? Bro - we want it NASA-approved at that point.

As for the testimonials, when hosted on the seller's site and not third-party, I'm always skeptical and so should you be. Even if that person said those things, were they paid? Who is the character witness for the testimony? Is it an industry icon or expert?

 

Thank you. FTW. Rarrick presents this in open-minded and third-party fashion. So far, the only such testimony we know of for Roy's kookproducts.

 

It is naive to believe that no fin manufacturer ever uses CFD to design new fins. This isn't advanced stuff. Engineering students can do it: http://members.iinet.net.au/~livanos/CFD_report/Report.doc

 

I have never seen another shaper continuously advertise their wares on here. Some of us have posted recommending shapers and boards, but only Roy does the non stop self promotion. Besides, his products are odd and unproven, as far as the mainstream surfing world is concerned. It would be nice to discuss actual testing, and not a few reviews from unknown people. I can get a good ride on my log using a fin from the 80's, but that doesn't make it a superior fin. Modern examples generally have a bit more development involved.

 

Brew using logic for the fukin win!!!!!! But as we all know:

 

Classic Carter. Can't go wrong with Accurate Hatin'

 

I agree with you here and in no way meant to discourage your noble quest in the name of the scientific method. Fight on. I am an ardent supporter, trust me, I would love to see Roy go scientific.

I know I'm playing gnome's advocate here, but I still have to point out, other shapers/companies do continuously post their wares, like Mgarbutt, and sometimes there are direct plugs for sales or new items by Greenlight. I'm okay with that, I think it's good, but then I have to be okay with other shapers doing that too. It makes sense for Micah to extend them the courtesy. They're connected to their communities, we're not seeing 7S or CI posting up their wares. Roy might not be connected to our communities physically but he is certainly no 7S/CI; despite the fact that his revenues may be in the same class...

Very true Yankee, classic. Don't forget, this works for the government too, and, as I'm sure you know, in business also. Toilet bowl flow... f*ckin hilarious

 

The fin looks interesting- I would try it. Reminds me of fish scales or something. Much better design then the others- looks like it would have more drive and less pivot. And it if really did produce lift- that would really make a huge difference- really get into waves earlier and easier too... But would it stand up to the waves at Belmar Nj(best waves on the east coast)

 

Heroin appears to be interesting, too ^^ would you also try that?

 

Good point...

 

Doesn't Greenlight mostly sell blanks and shaping tools? Also, they offer free shaping classes. That is sort of paying your way with the community. I don't know the other dude, but I am guessing he posts in the for sale section. If you are gonna spam, at least be honest about it.

 

Yes, Greenlight is basically a shaper supply with a unique focus on backyard/beginner shaping. I've had great experience with their service and have never heard anything to the contrary. But free shaping classes!? I f*ckin wish! Someone send me a link and I'll be on a train to Squan tomorrow morning!

Mgarbutt, I don't remember if he posts in 'for sale,' but he makes some gorgeous looking boards.

What would make you happier than clean shoulder-head waves on every day you have off, and a new unique board to try each week? Admit it... you would gladly include some of Roy's boards in that fantasy!

We can't, since we're not millionaires. So what's wrong with considering a fin instead?

 

I have no interest in his boards. If I want a wood LB, I would be calling up Will Allison. His fins look interesting, but he is still a small fry unproven manufacturer. In that case, if he wants to post constantly in the design section, he better include some information on why the design was chosen. Just posting pictures is basically like advertising. We know Roy is shameless when it comes to self promotion. We have been through the subject on here too many times. We know Micah doesn't have strict rules on advertising, which is why these threads are still allowed. It still seems a bit dirty.

 

Thanks. That is some interesting information. If one does make it to the SE region, I would be willing to try it on my classic log. You really should talk to some guys that do CFD and FEA. A student at an engineering school may work with you for free, just to get some real world experience.

 

your acronyms need a lot of work...and the details on your boards are sloppy (if you're going to a$k even close to that much, the details have to be perfect).

At least you admit you copied someone else's design (but I do think the ginsu edge is really hokey). You might want to "augment" a design that has more market potential...like a quad or thruster set (or even just a tri center). If you're only into only experimental designs, the FCS compressors are pretty weird. An FCS 3D hydrofoil or little cheyne horan star fin type that fits in a future box sounds your type, too.

 

Thats how it works with Gnomenomics man.