Rocket Scientists and Surfboards

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by salzsurf, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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  2. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Interesting stuff, but I'm not sure 25% strong gets it done. Maybe it does.

    I was a skier long before I started surfing too. Initially I had a hard time getting my head around the so-call "pressure marks" you get all over the deck. So standing on your board puts dents in it? Really? I hope these dudes make it work. Can't say for sure how much a 30% more expensive blank impacts the final cost of the board, but I doubt it's very much. Short board blanks are what, $70 tops? 30% on top of that means the shaper pays $90 for the blank.
     

  3. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    I work in the outdoor industry, IE camp/ski/travel/cycle/outerwear etc, and I am curious to know about the longetvity your ski equipment. As an avid snowboarder, surfer, and whatever else I can do to stay active I have yet to find an activity where the equipment lasts more than a few seasons, forget forever...

    this is interesting though, I wish they would make expensive stuff like cars and homes more withstanding to the elements and require minimal upkeep
     
  4. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I agree Ryan. Same thing here, my skis wore out, my rock climbing shoes, rope, etc wear out, my guitar strings get old and dirty and so too a surfboard will not last forever. Is there any piece of sporting equipment that can last forever?
     
  5. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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    Alright, I know nothing lasts forever, but I feel like I'm satisfied with the condition and performance of my skis for at least three years before I start thinking about how it's time to replace.

    With surfboards though, that time-frame is much shorter. Between pressure marks, dings, repairs, etc. a surfboard just shows wear so much faster.

    The biggest difference for me is that with a pair of skis, they can take a beating and keep on going. Surfboards take a beating and need $100 repairs to keep on going.
     
  6. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    Other than breaking boards not one of my boards have needed professional ding repair. Just some education and viola a 15 dollar repair kit goes a long way. My go to board turned 3 this summer, it looks like a pepperoni pizza that went through a meat grinder, but it goes like nothing else I have ever ridden. I think alot has to do with ability, I also found that once I progressed at surfing my deck started lasting longer, as for the bottom, I repair it every few weeks or so. I surf/paddle over boulders pretty regularly, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

    Surfboards are like shoes, they break in and feel great, then get floppy and turn to ****

    Also, about your skis taking a beating, most people that take care of their skis that get them repaired with proper ptex and tune ups are dropping a couple hundo every season. How many days a year are/were you skiing vs. how many days a year your surf?
     
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  7. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    try firewires.
    also, my softop (tm) longboard by surftech is well into its second decade of regular use and looks it but
    its integrity is just fine. after the millenia i always wondered why guys bought technology from the '60's.
     
  8. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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    I get in about 20 days on the hill now. Used to be closer to 40, but surfing took over priority in the winter. I'll sharpen the sticks and wax them up at the beginning of a season and then I'm good to go. I have a buddy with all the gear for it so it only costs me some beer.

    Harder for me to estimate the total surf days over an entire year in unpredictable Northern NE, but it's a lot higher. I'm hesitant to do my own board repairs and don't have the space. I need to buy a beater to hone my craft upon once I do have the work area.
     
  9. CBSCREWBY

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    Salz,

    You don't need a lot of room for most repairs. And unless you really effed your board up, a basic repair is easy and actually hard to mess up. Good idea on experimenting on an old board. We are attempting a total rework on a board found in a dumpster.
     
  10. beerndwata

    beerndwata Well-Known Member

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    Sep 18, 2013
    the shops will tell you their boards are tough when they only put 2oz glass on 'em.

    if you want your board to be tough, get 6oz glass. it's slightly heavier but will extend the life of your board three fold. and unless you're a pro, it's not gona make a huge difference

    I've had a custom shaped with 6oz glass for three years now and it's barely got a ding.
    and I like the "heavier" feel because I surf it in the winter when there's hard offshores a lot.
     
  11. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to get hung up on an argument in here based on my opinion of the durability differences between skis and surfboards.

    I must not be the only one who feels this way. If everyone was happy with poly and epoxy norms, then companies like Varial, LibTech, Coil, etc. wouldn't be pushing the envelope on board construction.

    It's just refreshing to hear some very bright people are looking to progress the sport and thought I'd share.
     
  12. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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    I have a Coil for my daily driver now and the thing is a tank.
     
  13. CaptJAQ

    CaptJAQ Well-Known Member

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    Jul 22, 2011
    Tank as in uber-durable or tank as in heavy, slow and hard to turn?
     
  14. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    I'm with ya bro. The things I've done to my skis over the years is crazy. Skis are crazy durable. Surfboards are "handle with care" for sure. Those that last are handled carefully like works of art. You don't have to worry about that with skis or snowboards.

    I'd love to have a surfboard that could take a drop on the pavement, or worse yet, a collision with a large single-fin (that happened) and come away unscathed.
     
  15. Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor

    Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    My North Face Mountain jacket from 1999 is still my ski jacket. I gave it a another waterproofing coat maybe 3-4 years ago. Also, and from that same era, my pair of Vasque sundowners (made in Italy, not China) are looking a little ragged, but waterproof and comfortable none-the-less. Lastly, my original, first generation Patagonia retro x is now 22 years old and still warm and, if I don't say so myself, rather handsome.
     
  16. salzsurf

    salzsurf Well-Known Member

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    Super durable and it's fast. I'd say it's about the same weight as a standard poly board. I think mine is a bit heavier because I have the 5-fin option with the new FCS II boxes that are definitely on the heavy side.
     
  17. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2014
    Bic. Then you run into the typical "im too good for those boards" response

    Theres a fine line between durability and performance when ot comes to surfing. A few extra factors come into play when boyancy is involved
     
  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Fake boobies!
     
  19. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I stand corrected! Very good work Surfdogg.
     
  20. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yep, a super light tank at that, at least mine is, it's got the "kick" technology, some call it golf ball texture or dimples, which makes it lighter / stronger than the previous models. I've had mine for 1 1/2 years and it's been to PR and back twice now and in HH - nearly DOH waves, and handled by Jet Blue on both trips, and it's gotten tons of mileage here at home, but I can't find a scratch or ding on her. This thing exceeded my expectations and performs in almost all conditions.