Average Joe VS. DWART (HELPPP!!)

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Agorman, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Lol really? Well, you did just get here recently.

    Search through the Roy Stuart tread and you'll see a helmeted inmate surfing a redwood tree.
     
  2. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    long ago, I bought a Rusty Piranha, which, according to them, could surf "knee to head high". Fact was, it had too much rocker to surf anything under waist high and too wide/round a nose to fit in anything close to a head high barrel. Bottom line is surfboard companies exaggerate their model's performance...especially on the small wave end.

    I haven't ridden the RV, but, based on the reviews, it's closer to the Dwart than the AJ. I'm not a fan of rounded pintails in small/flat faced waves, so that would take the Dwart out of the equation for me.
     

  3. AndrewIfallalot

    AndrewIfallalot Well-Known Member

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    Aug 24, 2012
    The Dwart looks like you could actually turn it, while the AJ is for intermediates to chug down the line on.

    Unless you ride the AJ as short as you are supposed to, which judging by the ones I see in the lineup no one does
     
  4. Agorman

    Agorman Member

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    Nov 5, 2014
    Makes sense, I'm gonna stay in the middle of my volume range, and a 5'3 is pretty damn short to begin with, so hopefully that'll allow for more than just some down the line speed.
     
  5. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Bro. I rip on my 4'3. What you talkin bouts?
     
  6. Agorman

    Agorman Member

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    Nov 5, 2014
    Yea, I'm more a fan of wider tails too, with the exception of swallows. I mentioned the rv because like you said, it's kind of in between the two, so maybe it's the best compromise...? I'll do some more digging, plus I just found out that surf ride is having a huge demo going on on the 15th down at seaside so hopefully some of the boards will be there.
     
  7. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Hey, someone's gotta give the heavy girls lovin

    Lol
     
  8. Agorman

    Agorman Member

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    Nov 5, 2014
    Idk anything that small besides a beater. I'd call that a large bodyboard haha
     
  9. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Skimma brahhhhh
     
  10. The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII

    The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    I drove back and forth and looked at the RV vs. the Dwart for Mrs. Two Barrels. I couldn't compare them side by side, but I truly couldn't tell the difference going from one shop to the other. Same retracted bat tail, same nose, similar rocker profile (or lack thereof). The RV was a buck fitty and came with awesome fins, but I had a barely used set of high end fins, so ultimately it came down to $$$.

    The story behind getting this board: I forgot our anniversary and I knew her birthday was coming up in a few weeks, but I forget the date--- so I bought the stick and had the shoppies put a bow on it and leave it there. We drove down early to surf and--surprise! I gave her an "early" birthday present to preempt the date that I would have ultimately missed, and it looked like I had planned to miss the anniversary. Kick-save and a beauty.
     
  11. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    I didn't necessarily mean "wide", I meant squared off. Basically, square/squash tails seem to have snappier turns and roundtails turn smoother/more "flow-y"...but also more stable in any power.
     
  12. Agorman

    Agorman Member

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    Nov 5, 2014
    Gotcha. I just find that riding longboards with wider tails, so squashes and squares i guess, are a lot easier to nose ride than pin tails. But then again, they all feel flow-y haha.
     
  13. Agorman

    Agorman Member

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    Nov 5, 2014
    I think that's the definition of killing two birds wit one stone haha. Only real difference I can find between the two is that the rv has a squash tail and the dwart has a round pin (which is a big difference I guess), and that the rv is a little wider and thinner, not by much though. That's all with the standard specs, i don't know what would change if you gave them the same dimensions and tail and left everything else as is...because then they really are the same board.
     
  14. The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII

    The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2014
  15. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    stepped tapering is the same on both the Dwart and RV, but the Dwart is rounded at the end and RV is squashed. Doesn't seem like that would make much of a difference, but it does. Even with the "fangs", rocket tails are round enough to feel the difference (won't be buying anymore of those).
     
  16. mrcoop

    mrcoop Well-Known Member

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    Jun 22, 2010
    Rocket tails, IMO, are the greatest. I have a vernor that is equipped with it (slightly) and have a v3 that has it. They are two of the best boards I have ever owned. Rockets kinda give you the best of both worlds. Dude was ripping his v3 in the cold water classic...I think he even won...tho he could probably rip into anything with anything...to each his own.

    Got the rv too a little while ago. I have now grown to like the board and probably taking it off craigslist. Been taking it out in mushy crap and using super large fins on front and much smaller rears. Seems to turn and release much better then how I previously had it set up.
     
  17. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    idk, round tails just lend themselves more toward a larger/steeper wave, imo...waves probably weren't that small at the cold water classic.

    guess I'm just more of an "all or nothing" type. To me, "best of both worlds" equals "jack of all trades" equals "master of none". Granted, the fangs on a rocket tail give a little more bite than a pure round tail, but I think they still lean way too much toward a round tail's smoothing characteristics.