kelly slater just bought firewire surfboard company

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by cepriano, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I like the idea that Kelly is raising awareness for the impact we all have on the environment as surfers. He says he is giving us choices, (hopefully like Patagonia), that marry performance and conservation. If it doesn't work as advertised, his status as a surfing and pop culture icon will still goose the next surfboard manufacturer to take a look at greener technology.

    Personally I prefer the feel of a poly board on good waves, but for crappy waves, EPS is fine. I like the extra float to gain speed over flat sections. On good waves this becomes a control problem. Different gear for different conditions. So I have polys, and epoxys. I would like to have a good board for good waves that was not so harmful to the environment. I don't feel too guilty. Maybe I should, but I try to mitigate my dirty footprints by doing/organizing water testing programs, beach cleanups, etc.

    Can't we all get along?
     
  2. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I would like to remind you that neither you or I are immune to marketing. I dislike it as much as you do, but, if you are aware of brands, as you apparently am (me too), you have been "marketed", "branded". We all have, unfortunately.
     

  3. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Kookie, what if I didn't need the advice?

    Brands aside, I'd want Slater's input on construction and hydrodynamics over anyone else. His surfing speaks for itself, and his intellectual insight on board design is likely second to none.

    I feel like Merricks are so fun to ride because of Slater's many years of input. I wouldn't buy another one because they're expensive pieces of sh!t though (construction wise).

    Kooks will always think riding pro model boards will make them magically better, while failing to see they have to do it themselves.

    I've ridden a wide variety of boards over the coarse of many years, and I'm currently partial to Lost. Not for the name, but for the fun factor, without a doubt. I am open, however, to trying new things.
     
  4. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    I never been on a fire wire but they put out some wacky shapes for a pop out company. And they demo boards like you can demo skis. Thats pretty cool.
    Have you checked out the cornice? I'd try that thing in a second! I wonder how it paddles. or works in a weaker wave.
     
  5. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    also, don't know if nev still involved or not.....he sure tried long and hard enough to make a suite stick.
     
  6. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Yeah, I had a Sharp Eye fish that I'm pretty sure he shaped, and it was sick. He shaped for them right? I'm not sure.
     
  7. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    i'm pretty sure f/w's were his baby at one point; the man has been fully immersed in multiple board
    technologies since the early 70's....in OZ he seemed to go in and out of style. i visited his small shaping
    room/roadside biz/tourist trap gig in may '79......through the years he has been one surfy dude.
     
  8. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Maybe Marcio Zouvi (sharp eye) shaped for Nev?
     
  9. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    dk but i think his last name hyman (?)
     
  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I could be wrong but I think the FWs and the Merricks that the Pros are riding are not the same "mass produced" models hitting the rack at the shops???

    Also, on the income side. The Pros (top earners) are picking up most of their sponsorship doe from Apparel/clothing/accessory companies not board manufacturers (for the most part with exceptions)

    I think some of what Cep and Kookie are saying is right on. No need to go out and spend 600-700 per board. Talk to your local shaper and get what you want, build a relationship, and surf (I especially liked the comments about the guys who sit there talking themselves out of it Kookie...just go already!!!)

    Who wouldn't want Slater's advice...totally agree. He and Merrick have done wonders in board design...I am still not going out to buy a $650 board (not saying you would) when I can get a local to shape similar innovative designs for a price that makes us both happy (never try to ask your local for a deal or for it cheaper, that's weak!). With most shapers, you could buy three boards for the price of two name brands off the rack.
     
  11. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    - Medina rides Pukas boards
    - Julian rides JS
    - Andy switched to JS from HIC (Arakawa not Tokoro)
     
  12. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    bully.
     
  13. Scobeyville

    Scobeyville Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2009
    I think Julian's off JS
     

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  14. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    And Barry Cuda rides Byrnes.
    Who cares about the others!!!??!!
    And drinks expensive Scotch Whiskey!!! <grin>
     
  15. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    I don't do a surfboard census im just going by what I recall from watching surf vids,and I havnt watched any recent andy clips.

    regardless I know andy still rode a rusty,a tnc,a tokoro and a lost.people switch boards all the time.and I know I saw Julian on a firewire,maybe it was a different Brazilian,maybe filipe Toledo,not sure im not the "whats under his feet" expert like you
     
  16. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    ok just checked the firewire website for the team,
    apparently medina isn't on it,congrats u study pro surfing more than me,u should feel proud.

    a few good guys a few nobodies,
    taj burrow is on the list,didnt know he was on em but taj rips so that's cool.timmy reyes,stu kennedy and a few others.
     
  17. KookieMonster

    KookieMonster Well-Known Member

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    Jan 13, 2012
    Your totally right about the apparel companies likely being the highest earning sponsorship wise. But if you look at the money Lost, Merrick, FCS, Future, etc. have for "endorsement/sponsorship" budget you would understand why their boards are so expensive. Yes Kelly Slater can make an awesome board for Teahupoo and high precision waves for high precision surfing. But I am sure you local guy can make you a board that better suits your conditions.

    And yes I know those companies make small wave boards too, but I don't think they have much of an advantage on a good local guy. Just by default he surfs your swells, he knows if your waves break top to bottom, and maybe most important he knows your skill level. Not what you tell some guy in an e-mail, but how you actually surf.
     
  18. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    str8 from the tokoro website.


    wade tokoro

    Growing up in Kahalu’u, Kane’ohe on East side of the island of Oa’hu, Wade Tokoro has spent most of his life in surfing with his brother Kerry Tokoro. Through his numerous experiences surfing heavy waves on the North Shore, Wade and his hand-crafted surfboards are trusted by all the surfers in the world, from amatuers to professional.

    Also, working closely with all professional surfers around the world such as 2-time ASP World Champion Mick Fanning, 3-time ASP World Champion Andy Irons, big wave charger Jamie O’Brien, Tokoro has all models that will suit any range of wave, from small to big.
     
  19. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    yea its the clothing and apparel which fuels the surf industry and local surf shops.people aren't buying boards everyday but a pair of shorts or a hoodie every day is what pays everyone.surfboards are a small market.and its pros mostly using them,so its kind of like the donut shop across from the police station.you would think that donut shop is having great business,but not when cops want the donuts for free.same with surfing,channel islands,rusty,fw,etc give those boards to theyr team riders and when they get a pic in a magazine with the board logo they get a cut.

    and plus surfboards are expensive because each one when hand shaped,is like a one of a kind.a lot of work goes into them,its a long process.but anything over $600 is out of control.its like fancy clothes and Walmart.u can shop at Nordstrom and il stick with Walmart.in the end its all the same shyt,ones just made with better more expensive materials
     
  20. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Andy rode Chili's too. I think I may have one of them. I bought it from Liam. The board rides great in bigger stuff.