SIMOD 05 is a ***

Yeah, all of his points are not in depth, but it's nice to have the debate points in one place. There's another area on his blog (couldn't find it) where he mentions that a personal religious experinse cannot be refuted, but only interpreted...

Anyway, right back at you man. Hopefully you get some waves this weekend, if you can actually use the roads up there, anyway.

 

Mr. Wayne, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may "God" have mercy on your soul.

 

Jesus H. Christ, what is wrong with you? Education will show you that evolution is real, the earth took more than a week to create and dinosaurs did exist. The only one who's confused is the dood who blindly follows a ghost.

 

cock... balls...

 

Wayne, relax bro', the Lord's got this.

Yes indeed, the good news is simple. However, our minds are a gift. The believer is called to use and develop them.

I recommend you check out "Love Your God with All Your Mind: The Role of Reason in the Life of the Soul" by J.P. Moreland.

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J.P. Moreland is concerned for the evangelical community. He feels that it is currently being held captive by a thoroughly modern understanding of Christianity which has diminished our ability to positively affect change in our culture. In other words, we are no longer salty, and cannot (do not) function as the salt of the earth. What does Jesus say about salt that has lost its flavor? It is good for nothing and must be thrown out (actually, Jesus, in his ever mild manner, says to throw it out and trample it underfoot).

Just what is it that makes us the salt of the earth? Moreland makes a convincing argument that our intellectual capabilities are a large part of that saltiness. The modern understanding of Christianity that has made us flavorless? A strong and deeply held conviction that Christianity is supposed to be anti-intellectual (supra-rational). Thus, Moreland examines how pervasive anti-intellectualism was in Christianity during the twentieth century, and he argues that we need to recover true Christian intellect and rationality to once again become salt in this world.

Moreland asks several very important questions regarding the relationship of intellect (mind) and faith. Those questions include: Why should the mind matter in Christianity? How can one develop a mature Christian mind? What does a mature Christian mind look like? How can we guarantee a future for the Christian mind? The answers are, obviously, well-thought out and well-reasoned. They are also informative, and the overall effect is a practical, rational book which teaches us to re-elevate reason to its proper status in the Christian life. After all, Jesus did summarize the law by telling us to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind.

 

well, you're certainly not guilty of that.
in the future superstitionists like yourself might be asked to row or get out of the boat.
choose rowing.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^+1000
Jeez wayne I used to feel sorry for ya but you just ask for it.

 

funny how those who aspire to power demand warfare.
those in power tend to say "this might not be a good idea."

and, for those that would start wars, its always somebody elses' child who gets body-bagged.

 

GW Bush is religious....
Clinton is Baptist....
Elder Bush has a religious side to him...
Ronald Reagan was a Christian.....
JFK was Catholic.....Carter, Ford as we'll were religious.....

That is a very long period of time with Christian sects in power....and yet.....there is NO Christian Taliban in power. There is an asshole in power presently, a communist for sure ("redistribution")......but no Talban like government
Sorry
Hanna--you are off track on this one.

Nibble on that....

 

i wonder how far an atheist would get in a national election?
(imagine for a sec the commercials alone..)

FIRST IT WAS A COMMUNIST; NOW ITS SATAN!
WHAT IS WITH THE DEMOCRATS?

 

Even with that--you are way off. Difference is, all of Islam supports the terrorists (why the silence?). Nobody in the USA supports the Christian morons, the few that exist. You yourself are evidence of that--you do not support the christian riffle totters. Neither do I!!
Anyway, have a great day!

 

Obama is an atheist. One already won. Atheists are fine. Communists are not my preferred humans., they suck--they are thieves, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Not all of Islam supports terrorists.

 

You are right. 99.99% of them do. Those that do not are rejected by their imams etc.

 

i wondered bout that.
you just said our prez is fine.
i agree.

it might be a good idea be uptight about commies. according to nyt the rooskies turned on
britains air defense system in a very public manner the other day. business as usual? well,
sure but this hasn't happened in a decade or more. why now?

 

Putin is a communist. Always was and always will be.
Russia will return to Soviet status in the near future. They have in recent times jailed all their capitalists on trumped up charges. Mostly in the oil industry, btw.
Also, obamas is an idiot. You voted for him?? How is "hope and change"?? Are keeping your doc? Your health plan?

 

agreed; but he's not a mormon. what were YOU tinkin?
yes i voted for him twice/primary+main.
weed got legalized; cuba got opened( i think). weed no biggie for me but would LOVE to do cuba/surf trip-ucoming?
i have same doc, same health plan at age 59.

i have a bad feeling that the 0'teens will be looked back upon nostalgically. nuff said.

 

Still not true.

 

You guys sound like what the islamic terrorists have called "useful idiot" in an earlier news item. They described you guys, your thinking.
Now, keep in mind, I am not saying that - THEY are. If the people you are defending, say that about you, you might want to reconsider your train of thought.
That is far more intelligent then anything you have posted so far.

 

Never said he was a mormon. A MORON ....yes.
Cuba?? Not important issue for me, other than confirmation of him being BOTH a moron AND a communist.