Sad, racism at Trestle's

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Patfromlogan, Feb 22, 2015.

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  1. Feb 22, 2015 #1
    Patfromlogan

    Patfromlogan New Member

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    I'm what you call a "local haole," as opposed to a mainland haole - which would be a white resident of the 48 contiguous states. I'm from O'ahu and now live on the Big Island, Hawaii Island. In the sixties I'd surf Pipeline on smaller days and if a half dozen guys were out we'd think it was crowded. I'm bothering to write this because of what happened recently at Trestle's.

    I live and surf on the East Side, the more rural and Hawaiian side of the Big Island (no resorts, lots of brown people; Hilo where I live now is 16% haole and most of us are married to brown people), lots of papaya and macadamia and pakalolo and uncrowded surf. Sadly the best surf spots were covered by Pele in Kalapana (rivaled the North Shore), but we do have waves and the only issue at Poho'iki, the most popular spot in Puna, is old haole guys, usually retired (or hippies who never had a career) dropping in - they just don't have a clue. The local scene is kinda like the 60s, much more relaxed and friendly. As one Hawaiian surfer told me, "Here we still got aloha." Puna, the area south of Hilo, where I used to live, is the size of O'ahu with 30,000 people. It's like old Hawaii, the culture still exists here, lots of people have deep cultural roots - the music, food, and language are still strong here. I've never seen anger or fights from any Hawaiians in the water here on the Big Island. As a kupuna (elder) I sometimes get given waves. I was talking to one local after some idiot, also local (brown) dropped in on him, asking if he was going to say anything, and he said, "Eh, life's too short," which is typical - though in this case the same idiot dropped in again on the same guy and then got the "stink eye." And the offender apologized and that was that. While I actually never had problems with racism surfing on O'ahu, I know there it is not as friendly as the Big Island, here it's a really nice scene; you show respect, take your turn, don't snake, and you'll make friends. Of course it's easier for me or my brother, we've grown up here, we can talk the talk (in the local culture it's usually up to the stranger to smile and say hello - and if you do you'll get smiles back) and while he is a real dedicated surfer and fits in great with the scene, I am a student of hula and have a black belt - started Hawaiian Kempo forty years ago.

    I am not going to draw attention so I am not going to use names, and if anyone knows the name please don't use it, for privacy and politeness sakes. Given how nice people have been to me in the water (the only time I announced MY TURN loudly was when I was surrounded by some aggressive wave hog haoles) it was specially troubling to me to have a local young very talented Hawaiian gentleman, a really good guy from a nice family, got called "beaner" when he was out at Trestle's. He didn't even know what that meant. A Trestle's surfer talked to the racist twerps and shut them up. Being a local haole I have, over the years, seen many Cali surfers terrified of Hawaiians or any brown person. Trapped in the prison of their own racism. A "beaner" for chissakes? So sad to me to see someone so young and innocent, raised in Puna, the most Hawaiian area of all the islands, where Hawaiians have only treated me well, catch this kind of hatred.
     
    Patfromlogan, Feb 22, 2015
    Patfromlogan, Feb 22, 2015
  3. Feb 22, 2015 #2
    stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

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    Dumb racists...shoulda called him a pineapple, not a beaner
    Seriously though, I find being called a haole as rascist as any other terms, and I've been called a haole in Hawaii. Didn't really bother me that much. Hopefully the kid wasn't too offended. Life is rough, your gonna come across all kinds of assholes in your travels. Man up and don't be offended by idiots..
     
    stinkbug, Feb 22, 2015
    stinkbug, Feb 22, 2015

  5. Feb 22, 2015 #3
    Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I have no idea what a "beaner" is. And this IS the first time I hear it. I am 64 yrs old, so it is not that I haven't been around.
    Racism is for idiots.
    But from the vantage of being a white anglo, I do enjoy being called "cracker". Makes me feel me warm and fuzzy.
    Oh well, life goes on.
    Nice day out, huh?
     
    Barry Cuda, Feb 22, 2015
    Barry Cuda, Feb 22, 2015
  6. Feb 22, 2015 #4
    metard

    metard Well-Known Member

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    that was difficult to read
     
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  7. Feb 22, 2015 #5
    nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

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    Beaner is racist term for Mexicans
     
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  8. Feb 22, 2015 #6
    FUN

    FUN Well-Known Member

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    why did i waste my time reading this
     
    FUN, Feb 22, 2015
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  9. Feb 22, 2015 #7
    Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

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    Racism in surfing needs to stop. What can we do to help end this madness on your little island of torture?
     
    Sniffer, Feb 22, 2015
    Sniffer, Feb 22, 2015
  10. Feb 22, 2015 #8
    Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

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    Dear mr pat Logan,

    I agree - totally uncalled for. Wonder what the guy would have thought when he found out that the 'beaner' was actually a Hawaiian and not a Mexican.

    From the sounds of your story, I think I'm going to relocate. It sounds nice over there. I'm kinda over the whole surfing scene here. I paddle out and there's a bunch dudes with beards that all look the same with bad attitudes.

    Anyways... At least we got the Belmar, best break in the continental US.
     
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
  11. Feb 22, 2015 #9
    punkaboy

    punkaboy Well-Known Member

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    Is that you?

    [video=youtube;_ocob3ePh0o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ocob3ePh0o[/video]
     
    punkaboy, Feb 22, 2015
    punkaboy, Feb 22, 2015
  12. Feb 22, 2015 #10
    Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

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    I have never read more references to color, race etc in my life.
     
    Zippy, Feb 22, 2015
    Zippy, Feb 22, 2015
  13. Feb 22, 2015 #11
    grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    ^Zippy, did you work in O27 NNS?
     
    grainofsand, Feb 22, 2015
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  14. Feb 22, 2015 #12
    metard

    metard Well-Known Member

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    i tried to read it again.... but wow

    srsly.... were you home schooled?
     
    metard, Feb 22, 2015
    metard, Feb 22, 2015
  15. Feb 22, 2015 #13
    rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

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    Ha he said brown people a lot! I love that term almost as much as when my Grandma used to call blacks "colored folk". Beaner is funny too but I like Porch Monkey and Jigaboo better.
     
    rcarter, Feb 22, 2015
    rcarter, Feb 22, 2015
  16. Feb 22, 2015 #14
    Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

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    Dudeski- I remember that -and that was just a mediocre waist hi day. Look, you can see mr doejoski out there's shredding the Belmar
     
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
  17. Feb 22, 2015 #15
    Ronnie Mund

    Ronnie Mund Well-Known Member

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    I saw a big vessel capsize there during hurricane gloria swell.
     
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  18. Feb 22, 2015 #16
    Ronnie Mund

    Ronnie Mund Well-Known Member

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    1985
     
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  19. Feb 22, 2015 #17
    Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

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    Yea many a vessels have missed the inlet there...
     
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
    Mr.Belmar, Feb 22, 2015
  20. Feb 22, 2015 #18
    yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

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    jeez, OP, grow up, first time I heard 'beaner' was in Cali, and who cares, and it sounds like the self-policing asspect took care of it in the lineup.

    You got a beef with an ignorant a-hole, take it up with the source & that would be raddamoron, but don't waste our eyeballs on that run-on drivel that you posted.
     
    yankee, Feb 22, 2015
    yankee, Feb 22, 2015
  21. Feb 22, 2015 #19
    xJohnnyUtahX

    xJohnnyUtahX Well-Known Member

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    Nice!!! You could totally be my side chick if Yank didn't spoil you.

    Hawaiians had their island taken over, sold out and let their language speakers reduce to 1%. They claim surfing every chance they get while the masters of it are white. Hawaiian landowners capitalize on the white dollar while other Hawaiian families starve. They aren't special, no culture or race is, white brown or whatever

    Everyone is equal until conflict

    This thread sucks by the way
     
    xJohnnyUtahX, Feb 22, 2015
    xJohnnyUtahX, Feb 22, 2015
  22. Feb 23, 2015 #20
    Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

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    if your from the south or cali you know what a beaner is but most mexicans ive ever met have been way nicer than most white people ratio..
     
    Sandblasters, Feb 23, 2015
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