Immigration reform is exactly that. reforming the immigration system not necessarily deporting everybody. If you made it impossible for illegals to get jobs and govt benefits, most would self-deport. The challenge becomes how to let people in with a controlled manner. I actually liked Bush's plan for guest workers. they come and work for a while then go home (repeat as needed) but the conservatives flipped out and killed it. The issue with Obama is the fact that he basically gave himself the power immigration which resides in Congress. I don't care which side of the fence politically you are on, it is very dangerous to have this much power in the exec branch and sets a very bad precedent. Whats to stop a conservative President from doing the same type of thing?
There are NO FACTS in politics. Every "fact" is an expression (numerical or otherwise) of bias. There is no "intellectual" discussion in politics. It is "the" reason I will not engage with hanna in an "intellectual" discussion . It is non-existent in the world of politics. All "facts" are paid for by political parties (example--all polls, to include Gallup et al). So, you are correct--all you think, all I think, all hanna and others think....is mere opinion based on "biased" facts. All politics is emotional--yours and mine, other, etc. However, that does not mean I cannot come to this site and needle the puck out of all you guys!! hahahaa!!
HOGWASH !!! Do you know any Canadians? Do you ever go there? Well, I have mated with Canadians and let me tell you they laugh at us anymore. And they LOVE Obama. Canada's middle class just recently exceeded America's. Yes, the Canadians as a whole are doing better than us. Just stay out of Regina and Winnipeg. Ok, I let this thread get away from me and would be up all night responding to the utter conservative nonsense spewed by people who don't even read newspapers - real journalism not the "biased, liberal media." So truck it. Right, they are all bad(politicians), Obama has ruined the country(no one has any concrete examples of how), and phony, hypocritical conservatives who preach "Less Government," but support every freedom suppressing law in existence are just swell. Less Government !! They are The Government and they want to monitor your urine. Surfers aren't republicans. That's only acceptable if you live in Orange County, CA.
Really, Bill? You're asking a lot of open-ended questions, but not providing any opinions on what exactly should be done. And, for the sake of argument, what exactly is your personal experience with immigration, deportation and/or the necessary expenses for such a project? Have you ever worked with any of those agencies, or are you just using "empirical data" from what you've read? I think you are already aware of what my experience is. The situation is really a lot simpler than what "immigration advocates" would like the sheeple to believe.
I married one. There are an equal number that hate Obama, and probably you as well, just because you are american. My wife loves it here; she is a naturalized american. She would never go back.
Then she musta really fugged up there. All the kanucks I've met love it there. Don't have to worry about losing everything if they get sick and economical junkets to CR.
And this gets to the crux of the original post. PHONY conservatives. Those who spout principles of conservatism to get elected then do the opposite (much like the liberal who runs on calls warfare and then gets rich in office). Cruz is a stereotypical version of this. He professes small govt but wants to use govt power to support his agenda. He portrays himself as a constitutionalists but undermines the 10th Amendment when a state does something he doesn't like. I can go on but you get the picture.
And lastly... Being apathetic is a great way to handle politics... Don't vote. Don't pay attention... Reserve your spot at an Hawaiian utopian camp with no rules...no rulers and no taxes.. Gee, I miss trash pick-up and being able to call the police when I get attacked for being snarky... Ah......... People... I'm surprised society is doing as well as it has. Too bad no one will enact the ideas of people on here, or we'd be doing SO much better. Yeah, civilization has been around for awhile, all the while, waiting for their savior to emerge from a freakin surf predictin' website message board.
Canada is a very nice place. My wife loves Canada, but not to live anymore--she is, contrary to those you just spoke about, not depended on the government, which seems to be your criteria. We go back every year to visit family and friends. But for me, Canada?? To live ?? Way too cold, man. But the food is awesome, for sure.
You stated you are a teacher in prior posts?? That means, if true, you are dependent on government for your existence. BIASED!! Need one say more??
I'm axing questions that no one can answer. When someone says, "Obama has ruined the country," and I ax "How so," is that too open-ended? No one can give specifics. And no, Obamacare hasn't ruined the country. The economy has only improved since the ACA. Dude, of course I don't know how much deporting every illegal would cost. that's kind of my point. I'm not the one decrying Immigration Reform. So........ I like Mexicans and OTM's. I don't like Muslims and feel that they should be banned from this country. Maybe Mr. Swellinfo Guy could help with this. No More Student Visas. F them. Now here's where a republican tells me that it's good to let educated immigrants in because it helps are country... Nahhh, Kidrock, I don't know what your experience has been. I've been off-and-on at this place because I keep getting deported. And I'm an American citizen. Fark, why can't youse guys create topics of substance when I'm not busy. SOB's....... " F YOU, tell him to wait....I'm posting on Swellinfo..."
I'm not, nor have ever been, a teacher. Yes !! Lets vilify teachers !!! That's great. But then again, I could be teaching at Andover - A Private Institution. So, ok, who should pay for public schools then? And police? And I WOULD DO WAY BETTER THAN MOST OF Y'ALL WITHOUT THE POLICE. You people probably call the police every time a black guy comes your way. "Mildred, dial the police a black guy is out front... quick, I think he's armed."
Ok, I thought it was you. I have nothing against teachers--I spawned one. But she teaches at a private university. Oh, and for a small period of my life I was a cop-=-state police. So far you are striking out on all fronts!! See, all facts are bias in politics.? I don't call police, I have a .357 Smith & Wesson revolver. But I don't need to--NH has no blacks. Or very few. You just keep striking out with all your "facts" which you opine on. BTW, we all do, which is my point.
Dudes, The government does nothing FOR me but health insurance right now. And I NEVER use it. I am not dependent on the government. The government has tried to lock-me-up for 20 freakin years..... So, yeah, I'm not some pro-government person. But I believe you help those in need as we are only as strong as our weakest link. And without a central government you wouldn't believe what this place would be like. Idealists like MIS would be dead in a month. Bet. They'd be preaching some "ideals" while the Neanderthal kills him and takes his stuff. Yeah people are basically good but the bad ones more than make up for their lack of numbers. And where did your Canadian wife hail from, Barry? The Northern Territory ? Or Manitoba? BC, Alberta, Ottawa and them Frenchies love their dang country. I feel much more "Free" in Canada.... Providing the poor, downtrodden, or ok, the screw-ups a place to live and food to eat is a good thing in my view. Yeah that $140 General Assistance check might be the thing that prevented some dude from robbing and shooting your daughter. Yeah, the desperate tend to do crazy things. Go figure....
Oh Barry... How did I strike out? I wasn't predictin' your child's profession and your previous one..... BS. Oh so you just shoot people, right? RIGHT (HEAVY SARCASM) I didn't strike out anywhere... Go back an reread my posts, you must have miscomprehended what I said. I wasn't predicting your kid's profession. So, Barry how do we fund public education then? So, you're kid could be dependent on the government if UNH makes her an offer she can't refuse. Will you disown her then or will the government be cool then?
Trois-Rivieres, Quebec. Very, very french lady. Beautiful and a great cook to boot. My lucky day when we met.