The Guide to Free Surf Travel

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by yankee, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    did u say u havnt bought an airline ticket in 10 yrs?

    ok I didn't go to all the links u posted,i do not have that much time.i did read a thing in surfer mag a few yrs ago about the flyer points,where u take like 10 flights and the next 1 is free or something.and yea the last minute deals,i know about them but u get stuck in the tailend of the plane.

    so what do u do for a living?are u ur own boss?not hating on u lol,taking 20 surf trips a year is one thing,but ur allowed to take multiple vacations a year(work).even vaca time and sick time don't add up for all those trips.i get 2 weeks for 2 yrs of work.been like that at every job I worked at.

    for instance,even if I was rich,i wouldn't be able to just take days off work to go chase a swell,wish I could,but not in this lifetime.shyt I cant take a day off for a local swell,like say Friday is going to be pumping,which it aint,and I told my boss Monday I need to take off he would say no.i have to give atleast 3 weeks notice before taking a day off,and swell forecasts don't predict that far ahead.i work in construction and attendance is the most important thing in my line of work,u don't show up the job simply doesn't get done,so we close down highways for nothing because I want to go surf lol
     
  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    cool, glad to hear you scored
     

  3. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I've never redeemed miles as cash. Gotta admit, I have no idea that is even possible?

    I utilize miles & points for flights, hotels & rental cars. A few years back, the airlines put into play where you have to pay the taxes & fees even when you redeem miles. It's not too bad for domestic flights (ex: $48 for RT IAD-SAN, about same for MIA-LIR) but it's chunky when it's transatlantic ($300+ for IAD-CDG).

    The thing is to earn & burn. Reason being, the airlines continue to debase the value of the award miles via higher redemption levels. Used to be I could get a RT biz class ticket to LIR for 30-40,000 miles. Now? 90-120,000 miles. So, no sense in saving miles because you're literally parking a depreciating asset when you could be using it for what you want: surfing good waves.
     
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  4. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    It's another sketchy grey area courtesy of the IRS.

    Since about 2002, the IRS has not treated miles as a taxable item. Also, the IRS hasn't taxed awards or other benefits that you take in from redeeming your miles.

    Unfortunately, in 2012 the tool bags @ Citibank surprised many of its customers by issuing Form 1099-MISC, Miscellaneous Income, to report the value of frequent flyer miles the customers had received in exchange for opening new accounts as part of an ongoing promotion.

    Lesson learned there? Don't open an account with a credit card purveyor that issues 1099's. I have never received a 1099 nor has anyone I know who grabs miles by the millions.

    Understandably, the customers were upset because, the value of the miles notwithstanding, many of them ended up paying dearly (through potentially as much as several hundred dollars in taxes) merely for opening an account.

    Citi got hit with a class-action lawsuit over that one. Powerful people were really ticked off. Failure to notify clients of the tax consequences AND Citi pumped up their stated value of the miles so they could take the write-off on their own books. Real scumbag maneuver: banks, oh, what a shocker.

    AX treats the points they fork over by the bucket load to clients as rebates. No grey zone there: totally & forever nontaxable.
     
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  5. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I don't work for anyone unless you count the IRS & every other tax authority :D

    I work a lot of long, long hours. Yah, it's my gig. So, if I do that part of the equation right then I can take time off & blow out for surf treks.

    Don't know anyone has that latitude who works for a company. Not judging, just making an observation.
     
  6. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I don't work for anyone unless you count the IRS & every other tax authority :D

    I work a lot of long, long hours. Yah, it's my gig. So, if I do that part of the equation right then I can take time off & blow out for surf treks.

    Don't know anyone has that latitude who works for a company. Not judging, just making an observation.
     
  7. Scobeyville

    Scobeyville Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2009
    My girlfriends mother is a pilot for United. Been trying to get on her "Non-Rev" List. Fly standby for free anywhere they go!

    Planning on a very long trip if...WHEN my company folds.
     
  8. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I did that back when I used to date a FA for Continental. And I bailed on that approach when I had to wait all effing day, from oh-dark-thirty into the night, in an airport, as flight after flight filled up & I got the bounce. You're the lowest priority in that scheme & these days, as crowded as flights are, that might be a tough row to hoe.
     
  9. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    what is with the dupe posts, Simod666??
     
  10. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    Dudeski.... When I first read your original post- I gotta admit, you had me scared... I thought you where like coming out and saying that your actually the ... The.... The shred machine!

    Like "I travel all around the world. Surf the best breaks. Drive the fastest car on the block. Hide ontop of toll booths" ... You know...

    But I read the whole post- I see what you where doing. Thanks for the faithful swellinfo info on traveling. Let me know how Peru goes - I love that placE...not just the waves, but the place and memories...

    Ok ... Carry on.... Shred....
     
  11. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    Dudeski.... When I first read your original post- I gotta admit, you had me scared... I thought you where like coming out and saying that your actually the ... The.... The shred machine!

    Like "I travel all around the world. Surf the best breaks. Drive the fastest car on the block. Hide ontop of toll booths" ... You know...

    But I read the whole post- I see what you where doing. Thanks for the faithful swellinfo info on traveling. Let me know how Peru goes - I love that placE...not just the waves, but the place and memories...

    Ok ... Carry on.... Shred....
     
  12. kickmee6

    kickmee6 Active Member

    28
    Apr 25, 2014
    That's exactly my point. If you are spending actually money to acquire the points, your flights are not technically free at all.

    What you are doing is being extremely savvy and intelligent with your spending. Credit card companies are out to take advantage of the everyday consumer, however, with that being said, the consumer can take advantage of the credit card companies just the same.

    I don't mean to nit pick, but these flights, I would not consider free. In your case, they are like a bonus for being alive.

    I am currently doing the same with LAN. Right now I am making a modest salary, but I try and get creative with ways to reach my goals. If i go out for drinks, ill put everyone's tab on my card, and let everyone pay me cash. I put my entire household's car insurance on my card, and ask my dad, mom and sis to pay me the cash...**** like that helps.

    Also, some people have jobs which reimburse them for expenses-- those people can really go hog wild. Just be smart and responsible. And of course keep in mind that if you are late for just 1 payment, and are forced to pay interest, that interest will most likely negate everything you have worked hard to gain.
     
  13. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Agreed, if one is spending money merely to acquire points & miles then that's not only not free flights that's also not an especially intelligent way to go about things.

    The actions that you mention are sure-fire ways to accumulate miles & points.

    You could ramp that up by actively seeking credit cards that give you points multipliers. And, apply for & take down credit cards that give you bonuses of, say, 50k miles if you spend 'x' amount in 90 days - - then you cancel the card prior to the annual fee. And keep on trucking to the next offer.

    Heck, you only have to do one or two of those offers & badda-boom, badda-bing you've got at least one RT coach ticket to Costa Rica.

    The US Mint had this program for a couple of years whereby they were trying to get the dollar coins out into circulation. You could go online & purchase the coins with your credit card. Free UPS shipping to you.
    One could, and did, rack many, many miles.

    So, that one went like this:
    apply & take a credit card that gives you 50k miles for spending $3k in 90 days (let's assume the card has a limit of $5k);
    max out the card by purchasing $5k in dollar coins;
    coins arrive, you schlep them down to the bank, deposit them in your checking account;
    you go home & set up the online payment of the $5k from your checking account to the credit card company;
    when the payment clears, your card is ready to utilize again, et. cetera.

    The Mint finally got wise & put restrictions on the program.

    It's not Einstein stuff here. It's merely watching for opportunities & maximizing those opportunities.

    And if anyone wants to yap about the morality of it all, spare me: the airlines are colluding to drive up prices to screw all of us; last time I checked any bank's history, they're basically evil empires; and just try being one minute late on your credit card payment & after you're done paying usurious penalties go look to see what that does to your credit rating.
     
  14. kickmee6

    kickmee6 Active Member

    28
    Apr 25, 2014
    We are on the same page. I am new to the game and missed my chance on those coins. People were also pulling moves with buying visa gift cards and sending money thru amazon to acquire points -- but that has been put to bed as well.

    I am a bit hesitant on constantly opening / closing cards as I believe that can have an adverse effect on credit score.

    Do you know if it is possible to merge AA miles with LAN KMS? I would like to sign up for the AA card if i can combine those with my LAN KMS. I already signed up for both LAN cards and received enough miles through sign up bonuses alone that I could scoop a RT flight to PERU during an off peak time of the year. Right now i am trying to reach a 15K annual spend on my LAN Signature card. If i reach 15K, i recive (3) first class upgrades. I am pretty hungry about that

    Also, my next move is to go after the SPG card, as all those miles can be transferred to just about any airline. And I need an AMEX
     
  15. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    My bank used to laugh when I would show up with boxes of those coins on a hand truck. Those boxes were friggin heavy. Many miles of dollar coins...

    I don't know the answer to your query about the merge of LAN / AA. Might try the points guy - - he's pretty responsive. That's a pretty sweet upgrade package, hope you nail it.

    The SPG card is above-avg, that's a good move on your part.

    I took an AX Plat card & did the spend on that & received 150k miles this month. That's my second go-round with that card. I have 4 other AX cards that get me the AX points as well as DL miles. With the DL card you get an annual 10k bonus plus a companion certificate. Not a lot but something.

    You get to a spot where you can plan your trips ahead of time & thus rack up the miles & points on the appropriate cards. So, if I'm going to CR in the spring I ramp it up on the AA miles cards.

    I haven't seen a negative impact on my credit rating from having many (20) credit cards or from having many applications for cards.
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Cool site, hadn't seen that one - - thanks for posting it.
    I'd combine that one with www.thepointsguy.com for knowledge & info on putting together cards that generate free surf treks.
     
  17. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Yankee, totally awesome thread/posts, I think this is great! thank you. you have wisdom, here.

    I think you are correct about the morality argument.

    it is more like investing, only not getting ripped off with fees/commissions, or being tied down in an ill-fated marriage to it, or being taxed in a cost-prohibitive way.

    you have found guaranteed gains from banks issuing credit cards, and all the while their intent is to basically steal your hard-earned pay, yet instead you as a shrewd steward of your finances turn the tables on them.

    the banks are making money, the irs is making money, the government is making money, the airlines and lodgings industries are making money, and it's our money!
    but if you think things through you can do well to keep your money and even increase it.

    I see it as a war they declare against us to get our money that we work for, and they send us all these countless offers, so they started it, they begged for it, and so we throw it back in their faces, and it blows up in their faces, like they so totally deserve.

    the bank throws a grenade into my foxhole, but I throw it back and it blows up in their face instead. they deserve it!

    we didn't ask for it, and it is an invasion, an occupation, these offers they send us.

    so if they issue the cards/offers, and we take them up on their offers and make out good and do well, it is a war that we can actually win, turning their totally evil intent against them for our good, and our profit.

    they send us all these ridiculous offers claiming FREE MONEY, and unlike the evil one, the antichrist's not-free surfboards, it actually is FREE MONEY, if you work at it.
    the one who wins the war usually thinks it through and works at it, and they are all working very hard at taking your money, but if you think and work at it you can win the war.

    if you don't think or work hard, you lose the war.

    they're never gonna stop, the offers just keep coming everywhere you look, so take it and make it work and you can win, and come out on top.

    banks, investment companies, they don't like me. I don't throw my money away. they give me money.
     
  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    ^^ this is well-spoken & had me alternately laughing & saying 'hell yah.'

    The airlines are brutal:
    we taxpayers bailed them out after 9-11 (the lone exception being SW); what do we get in return? Yep: price collusion, fees for bags, food & seats, the worst seats ever that are literally painful for any flight over 2 hours, bait & switch tactics on their ticket-purchasing websites and BS offers to upgrade.

    Last time I went through ATL on a DL flight, the list of people who could & wanted to upgrade to biz from coach was 90 passengers....90!

    DL has even started a campaign: 'it's not exclusive if everyone is doing it' - - wtf - - and they raise their mileage redemption levels while shrinking their pool of available award seats, even as they continue to flog the Delta Amex cards to us all as well as teasing us with 'go for the card and get the upgrade on your next flight.'

    The kicker being....there are no upgrades to be had in reality!
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2015
  19. kickmee6

    kickmee6 Active Member

    28
    Apr 25, 2014
    yankee - thanks for the tips man, I appreciate it

    Also, if you were able to use the coin trick, i 100% agree that you got those flights for free (although maybe you had to pay shipping and handling?)
     
  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    At the time, there was no shipping & handling. Free UPS delivery from the Mint. I believe that's changed.
    My UPS guy used to bring in with $20,000.00 of dollar coins at a time. Heavy as hell. That was the worst part about that angle, those coin boxes were bulky & a pain in the neck to cart over to the bank.

    Glad you're getting something from the links, hope you score free travel to sweet waves.