No barrels in afterlife?

good stuff Clem.......waves? not sure but I'm sure you'll be stoked!

 

You know...sometimes I wonder. The here and now...living on earth and all it's glory (I mean things are really epic, from conception to perfect waves....so much to be thankful for and generally unbelievable "how the world turns".) and the "not" so glorious (hunger, disease, war, "sin"....the list goes on).

We really don't know what to expect....subconsciously our faith can help us arrive at some conclusions but will there be tubes???? I got to believe yes....yes indeed there will be.

 

You guys are all starting to sound like WAYNE.

 

The only thing I could add is that if there are tubes "in the sweet bye and bye", they will be perfect and beyond our current imagination.

 

Do you all believe in a god but not in religion? Just wondering? Maybe it should be a post all its own. I struggle to believe in a god but earth is just an amazing place life is amazing. Not sure science can answer everything. Religions idk they seem so fairytale. What is it called if you sorta believe in god but not heaven and that this is really the heaven we all speak of. Cause thats what i believe. Therefore i believe in barrels in heaven

 

I recommend 5 dried grams in silent darkness or 3 solid hits of DMT.

 

I have no clue what DMT is, but that sounds like a great suggestion.
Next step for all these god freaks is joining ISIS.....

 

It's mind-boggling how many gods people came up with throughout the ages. And it's also mind-boggling how people today seem to think that everyone has always believed in the Christian version of their god.



Acquaint yourselves with the fact: as humans change, so do their gods.



While today's dominant religions fixate on (and wage wars over) a few prominent deities, we would be wise to remember that billions of people from past centuries believed in—and devoted their lives to—entirely different gods. When civilizations lost their dominance, collapsed and were eventually overshadowed by others, so the gods they worshipped died out, and lost their relevance. If these deities are remembered in the present at all, they are thought only to be quaint relics of a distant, more primitive people.



This fact, perhaps more than any other, demonstrates that gods are human inventions, and live only so long as groups bound by common belief survive. Gods live solely in the minds of men and women, and are conjured up to serve very human personal and political needs.

 

St. Thomas Aquinas:
The Existence of God
Argument from Motion

Our senses prove that some things are in motion.

Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.

Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.

Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).

Therefore nothing can move itself.

Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.

The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.

Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

God Loves Barrels...

 

Oh, ho hum, Aquinas and the "first Mover" argument....contingency argument.
Not much different than Aristotle and "Prime Mover" ideas.......in fact, Aquinas is directly derived from him.
And all of this leads to a white van in Florida, driven by a guy name WAYNE?? One step away from Jim Jones and mass suicide. "Drinking the Kool-Aid" for Christ!! Killing Americans for Allah!!
No relationship to barrels, but, if it makes you feel better.....okay....but, I think St Thomas Aquinas really liked and was arguing for fallopian tubes. those in which he buried his face....

 

LazyE-

What you say has merit in the sense that man has been in the "god creating business" for years, and for the purpose of serving some sort of need,as you mention. This is easily evidenced by the plethora of "fertility gods" (important to agrarian cultures), "war gods", etc., that were a part of ancient cultures. Even the "christian god" has been leveraged for man's agenda, often with evil purposes, intent, and consequence.

However, when the one and only Creator God revealed Himself, He distinctly proclaimed to man to "have no other gods" and to "make no images", which was to put an end to the gods that man makes up in his own mind and imagination and fashions with his own desires for his own purpose. Instead, the true God is the one who would reveal Himself to man, and not be subjected to mans creation and machination. You see, God created (caused) man and not the other way around.

It is unfortunate that what many "worship as God" is of their own fabrication (or someone else's), and thus there are lots of false beliefs. This fact in itself (the existence in the minds of men many false gods) does not adequately dismiss the reality of a true creator God. It just calls one to humility, discernment and careful consideration.

At least this is how this pilgrim sees it ..

 

No. It is delusional--man did create god (lower case intentional). The proclamation "to have no other gods" is the rational you would advocate justifying the killing of others that you would label (and have) "heretics"; you are ISIS in lambs clothing. No different.
Sorry, but it is true. You can believe as you wish.

 

ccdog does not push his beliefs on anyone. There is nothing wrong with believing in something. He seems like a very peaceful dude so compering him to ISIS is just stupid. An intelligent person can accept others beliefs with out ridiculing them.

You, however, spew hate daily. Which is very similar to isis.

 

nynj ..thanks man. You get it.

 

ccdog the only thing I know for sure about god is if he does exist no human will get to heaven but through grace. I wish no ill will on any one regardless of faith but organized religion scares me. It has and continues to be a tool for those who wish to maniplute the masses for less than holy purposes.

 

I agree with this statement 100%. Amen.

Yes, this is a tragic consequence. That is why "grace" is so important. There is, in my estimation, a huge difference in being motivated by gratitude for what you've been freely given verses feeling compelled to earn it or appease another.

Yes, it can facilitate manipulation when there is a merit system.

 

Barrels of bliss

 

Please explain Christian Inquisitions of the past within the context of your post.
You cannot apologize or rationalize it in any other way.
Christianity has behaved in the past exactly as ISIS, which is my point.
And capedog IS here preaching his beliefs, otherwise, he would keep them to himself. So, you are wrong there as well.
And please note--I did state he can believe as he wishes. So can I. And you as well.

 

Inquisitions and history speaks for itself....as does the teachings of JC. I find many things in bible tough to grasp.

The question of a higher being or one God is one you nor I can't answer for sure...outside of faith.

I think it's vey clear that regardless of your belief system, the qualities a man (and a women) puts forth matters. I have never met Cdog but he seems to have nothing but positivity and peace in his heart. Disagreeing with ones beliefs is fine and exposing the darkness in your heart is most telling. Cdog is nothing like ISIS period.

Pray for surf

 

He was not telling anybody what they should believe. He was giving an opinion to a question that was asked. So I am not wrong. You are, again.
What happened 800 years ago is not relevant and has nothing to do with the context of my post.

And saying "I'm right, you're wrong. You are delusional, but believe what you want" is not the same as respecting others.