This Sh*t has to stop!

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by DawnPatrol321, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    The muslims have you all deceived. But you will never know how deceived until you are laying in the street with a bullet through your empty heads, while they rape your daughters in front of you. Either you or them--no compromise, and take no prisoners!!
    Suckers.

    Hey, thats my best "thought of the day". Cool, huh??
    LOL
     
  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    It's not hate speech a la The Don. It's wakey-wakey speech a la common sense. I'm also not calling for bomb 'em til the rubble bounces a la Backpfeifengesicht Cruz. Ergo, your attept to once again twist my words so you like how you sound is the only ham-hock happening here, Stank.

    Keep 'em out.

    All I'm saying is there's an ocean between us & them for a reason; let's not blow it yet again.
     

  3. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
    - - Margaret Thatcher


    Agreed, dehumanization isn't the preferred pathway. So let's start with keeping a problem at bay. By keeping the bearers of the issue at a minimum. That, can be managed.

    Existing people remain. Until they prove that they don't want to be part of our culture. Not talking hurting people; I'm speaking of necessary assimilation into our culture. We cannot permit their ideology swamping our Judaeo-Christian culture that has proven to be, even with our discouraging self-imposed downdrafts, the most impressive nation in human history.

    Opening the floodgates cannot be managed. Hasn't Europe been proof enough to our incredibly lame bi-partisan 'leaders'...?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN8U-TSbfwE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEhIxs23Weo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z7HxDB9kLU
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2016
  4. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    no love for the blasters
     
  5. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    'We let people remain unless they do not want to assimilate into our culture'; by which you mean, I suppose, that you're suggesting they be removed. Which doesn't go so easily.

    But either way, if you're going to remove the Muslims who don't want to assimilate, don't forget about the Orthodox Jews. Come to think of it, I never did meet a Muslim who refused to shake my hand, while gladly taking my money. Never had an abusive Muslim landlord either. Never seen people harassed for riding bicycles in a Muslim neighborhood...

    If we're removing non-assimilators from our collective American culture- the Hasidic Jewish community would be the first to go. By your standards, that is. You still want to move forward with your plan?
     
  6. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Those aren't my standards - - they are your standards.

    Reading your passive aggressive diatribe you're saying that you encountered an Orthodox Jew who refused to shake your hand & so now you want them them deported?

    Maybe you just have grotesque, nasty hands.

    Dude. Again. You twist & change my words to the point that you sound good to your ear.

    The Muslims are blowing people up. When was the last time an Orthodox Jew detonated a suicide bomb? When was the last time an Orthodox Jew annihilated a Christian place of assembly & worship? When was the time anyone except Muslims carried out a concerted, systematic, decades-long program of terror against the gen pop in dozens of nations?

    Muslims do that, dude.

    There is precedent: Carter put a freeze on Iranian assets & had many Iranian 'students' deported due to their inclination to blow up Americans. Reagan followed suit. Ergo, non-partisan.

    So, wake up sparky.
     
  7. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    We've never banned people based wholly on their religion. Someone will need to change the bronze plaque inside the Statue of Liberty:

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free [except if they're Muslim]...
     
  8. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    The USA has never before had a religion that is trying to kill us, or at least, as its main proponent says, fundamentally "transform" us. So changing that plaque should be done immediately.
     
  9. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    "Except if they wouldn't let the rest breathe free as well" would be a valid addition
     
  10. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Yes, yes. Definitely deport the Hasidic jews too and the Syrian ones. Everyone would share a coke on that one.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It seems very strategic for them to hide behind a "religion". One thing that is considered untouchable in this world is ones religious beliefs. If you call it religion than it's considered a "right", therefore it can't be tampered with. At least in the "free" world.
     
  12. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    Haha... I do get my hands dirty on a regular basis. We can't all be day traders!

    But ... no passive aggression here. I don't want to get rid of Orthodox Jews. And I don't intend to twist your words, honestly. I thought that you were insinuating that we deport non-assimilating Muslim citizens, yes?

    My point was that, if you believe in deporting non-assimilators, you couldn't just limit it to Muslims. If you believe in deporting non-assimilators you would have to deport them all, Jews, Muslims, Amish and ultra-conservative Christians alike. You didn't argue for this exactly, but you did insinuate it.

    Now, about what you're certainly arguing for. You, and others on this forum, want to bar Muslims from entering the country. I believe that is a terrible idea.

    I know you think they are all terrorists. They are not. I know you think the Quran is hellbent on the destruction of non-believers. It is not. There is f*cked up stuff in there but there's f*cked up stuff in the bible too; every Muslim doesn't believe it word for word, as every Christian doesn't follow the Bible word for word. There are idiotic things in both texts and cultures and there are great values in both also.

    While terrorism must certainly be fought, there is no easy solution; a Muslim immigration ban will not only fail to stop terrorism, but will also bring us much ill-will, serving as a perfect tool for further radicalization.

    The First Amendment to the Constitution explicitly protects the "free exercise of religion." While this protects citizens, and not immigrants, the US has a historical foundation as a haven for religious freedom. In the spirit of the constitution and our history, I would prefer our country stays this way.

    I believe that any banning of a particular race, ethnicity, religion, or religious group undoes the foundation of our nation, and is thus a step in a direction more dangerous than the threat of terrorism itself.

    Now ... for anyone who has read 1984; does this thread not remind you of the 'Two Minutes Hate'?
     
  13. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    The real irony is, there's probably some goat humping website or anti-pork website or Burqa porn sites all over the Middle East which is having these exact same discussions, except the word "Muslim" is replaced with "Christian" or "American".

    Probably even giving medical advice, verbally blasting some self-proclaimed prophet of Mohammed, or throwing somebody's $#!t in the Wadi.
     
  14. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    That's goat hump predicting website, btw and antiporkinfo.com/forum
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Serious question Slash, and please don't get offended by me asking this... but, are you Muslim? I ask only because it seems this topic gets you posting more than any other topic that hits this message board. Just an observation. You seem very defensive and it appears you may have a bias toward them. Is there a reason for this? Not attacking you, just curious of your position here and where you're coming from.

    I'm all for keeping our country in tact based on the same principles that we were founded upon, but I can bet you any amount of money that our founding fathers did not envision this would be happening. If they did, i'm most certain they would be in favor of keeping our country safe by any means necessary.

    Like I said before, it seems rather convenient and strategic to claim Islam and then go around bombing non-believers. That makes it more difficult for the "free world" and more importantly the USA to do anything about it, because we have to be careful not to offend the non-radical Muslims, due to their "religious" beliefs. Sorry, but one bad apple does ruin the bunch, and in this case, there are countless apples. Like Yankee said, look at who's causing all the destruction, they all have something in common, and it's not cause they are Jewish, Catholic, Baptist, etc., c'mon man.
     
  16. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    Danger rears it's head, and your first reaction is to huck your values in the bin. Disappointing.

    If America ever falls apart as a country, without exception, the first step will be an abandonment of our values.
     
  17. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    What can't we close the borders off temporarily and then actually control the borders. We just need to follow federal LAWS already in place and punish illegal immigration and illegal immigrants (both muslim and non-muslim). We also need to ban Muslims until we have this under control. Why do people get so sensitive on the subject.

    The goverments role is to protect this country and the citizens of this country from harm. We care too ****ing much about foreigners. Too many bleeding hearts care more about complete strangers from other countries than their own neighbors and fellow citizens. Let's say we have only 1 radical terrorist for every 10 muslims that enter our country. Now let's pretend the country is our house and we are inviting people into our home. Now, I have 10 people in my home where 1 is a radical terrorist. My home is filled with the most important things, my wife and my kids. There is no way in hell, I would let those 10 people into my home with the probability that one would blow up my family.

    Slash, would you let 10 people in your home knowing that one would be a radical and cause you and your family harm? We need to think of this country as an extension of our home. We are all neighbors who live in this extended home. Why do we care more about strangers?
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    ^^^ Great points all around
     
  19. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    There is *nothing* new here, this has been going on for 40 years. And in reality, unrest in the Middle East goes back to the begging of time. Why the sudden panic?

    ISIL is losing ground everyday, their leadership is being killed off, and they learning the immutable law of war first hand - it's far harder to hold territory, then it is to take territory. Soon they will be gone, and then - and here's the shocker - a new group terrorist group will take their place bent on destroying the USA.
     
  20. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Because enough is enough already. "it's nothing new", so we just accept it then? Is that what we do? I would venture to guess that it is worse now than it ever was, and is cause for concern... not "panic".