Muhammad Ali 1942 - 2016

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by DawnPatrol321, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Anybody getting burnt out on Muhammad Ali tributes yet? It's everywhere you look right now lol
     
  2. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    started getting boring a couple of days ago. I've seen kings and actual heroes feted less.
     

  3. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    true datt like da tupac! pac livesss nuggahsss
     
  4. DonQ

    DonQ Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2014
    So true.
    Tyson had some mental demons to beat as well; King just tried to fuel his fire too long for his own greed. Worst thing that happened to MT
    Tyson would have been unbelievable in the UFC. He was an unbelievable boxer with precision, unmatched power, just couldn't except defeat.
    I personally, will always enjoy boxing over MMA. Violent, extreme fighting is a sign of the times I suppose.
     
  5. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I agree 100%.
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Plenty of boxers have died or been seriously injured for life too, it's just as violent honestly. 12 rounds and hundreds of punches to the head by skilled athletes. Football is as violent and dangerous. It's all a matter of perspective. The stats don't lie.
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    In MMA if someone gets flash knocked out the fight is over, they stop it 99% of the time. In boxing they count to 10 and give you a chance to continue. Now you have a fighter who is out on their feet, fighting with a concussion. Gets knocked down again, gets back up, keeps taking more abuse. Good way to get brain damage.
     
  8. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    Surfing is more dangerous sharks kill peopleZ.
     
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    True dat... The standing 8 count causes more brain damage than anything else in sports.

    MMA is far safer than boxing
     
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I love both sports, I enjoy it all, but generally speaking yeah, I agree. Not to say someone can't die or get severely injured in MMA, because it's happened, but most of those are in unsanctioned or bottom of the barrel promotions. Where most problems occur is in weight cutting but they have made modifications to those rules to force safety.
     
  11. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    I'm a huge fan and I've had some training...but honestly, I'd rather take a gloved fist to the head as opposed to a knee or elbow, which definitely sucks.

    If boxing is "unsafe", it's because they allow sh1t to continue when in reality the ref's should stop the fight.

    But if they stop the fight "too soon", it may water down the sport and people could lose interest...which means loss of $$$.

    Promoters are scum.
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    True, although some of the responsibility to stop the fight should also fall on the fighter's corner. His trainer or someone has the ability to end it if they think their fighter is done, sadly not enough do it, they would rather see them die trying.
     
  13. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Duk Koo Kim vs Ray Mancini being a perfect example. And that was a heavy heavy thing that Ray had to deal with.

    GGG is the baddest mofo in boxing these days IMHO.
     
  14. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    +1.

    For me it's just about settling all the arguments I heard growing up. Boxer vs kickboxer vs karate vs muay thai vs tkd vs wrestler vs judo vs jiu jitsu. Which is the best? It gets settled now, and the evolution of the sport is pretty cool. It's gone from guys being good at one thing to wrestle boxers to muay thai + jits, etc. and now we're seeing a resurgence of elite striking, like Stephen Thompson.

    Watching it evolve has been pretty cool.

    Some really good guys out there now doing breakdowns and analytics. Connor Reubusch and Jack Slack to name a couple.

    Seeing a prime A Silva, TJ Killashaw showing sublime movement and striking, the way Maia can dominate elite grapplers, etc. True martial artistry.
     
  15. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Ali was a great boxer and a great man, but he had his flaws like anyone else. He was man enough to own up to them and change though, which gained even more respect from me.

    Like Yank I'm a big Frazier fan too. He beat Ali, and in The Thrilla he made Ali quit. Had his corner let him answer the bell, he would have won that one too. And it blew me away when I found out he was legally blind in one eye since 1965.

    Think about that, he beat the The Greatest with one eye. And even though he lost he made him quit on his stool, again with just one eye.

    I'm glad Ali has got the fame and recognition he deserves, but it was just plain sad how Frazier ended up. I saw a documentary on him once and he was punch drunk, living in his gym, and eating beans out of a can. Both men should have been well taken care of.

    Golden age of boxing back then IMO. And throw in Hagler, Hearns, Sugar Ray, etc...amazing the talent then.

    I wish GGG had an opponent he could war with.
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Would like to see more of him, not too many guys lining up to fight him