Is "Sorry" Good Enough? Is this Justice?

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by DawnPatrol321, Jun 17, 2016.

  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    "Court convicts Auschwitz guard, 94, of accessory to murder"

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/verdict-coming-german-trial-former-auschwitz-guard-061136681.html

    "It disturbs me deeply that I was part of such a criminal organization," he told the court in April. "I am ashamed that I saw injustice and never did anything about it and I apologize for my actions."

    Also: "Groening, 95, was sentenced to four years in prison but will remain free while his case goes through the lengthy appeals process, and he is unlikely to spend any time behind bars, given his age."

    So is his apology or this "sentence" enough?
     
  2. JohnnyCornstarch

    JohnnyCornstarch Well-Known Member

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    Feb 24, 2015
    I mean it's pretty pointless to have a trial at this point, the dude has no life left to live. The only thing they should do is seize his assets and donate them to some Jewish foundation or victims foundation
     

  3. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    hes just going to die next year..
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    But is it too late to shame him publicly moreso than this? I feel he's getting off too easy, old or not. Tie his ass up and let the Jews beat on him like a pinata. F it.
     
  5. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    im starting to feel like any one that was assigned guard duty and even talked bad to someone is being put up for war crimes people are accessory to murder for not doing anything to stop it not saying this is the case here but the courts are very out of control these days. like that dude that just raped that chick, only reason no one had to pay for the marines raping 50k people in just one battle is we won. Every side did some war crimes. needless to say when your a soldier in disobeying a command in war is treason, death by firing squad or hanging back then more likely hanging they needed the bullets.
     
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  6. frost

    frost Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    sergeant pretty low on the totem pole..as bad as the tragedy was he was just following orders as any other enlisted man is told to do. Nazis were ruthless by this time,it was do as told or youll get killed your family will be killed and your sisters will be you know what...
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I really don't care, beat him / hang him
     
  8. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    [video=youtube;fynWOio9jBo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fynWOio9jBo[/video]
     
  9. frost

    frost Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    I really don't care either,,
    just sayin officers are normally held more accountable because they were the ones issuing the commands..enlisted men and NCO are just doing as told
     
  10. The Lonesome Tractor

    The Lonesome Tractor Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2012
    Well my original reaction was the following: What, was he supposed to be the one German who stood up to Hitler and said, "hey guy, I don't think what you're doing is right"

    But it sounds like he was really all for it... Brainwashed by hitler or not... he was willing helper for the cause.

    My question is, why are they finding these guys now? why not directly following the war?

    Irregardless (god i love using that word), I'm sure the stains on his soul are far darker than any punishment you could give him.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    So funny, so weird how that guy died too, irony
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Good points. I think it's odd it's taken this much time as well, but I figure it's never too late to shame someone and punish them by giving them a slow and humiliating death, like what they inflicted on so many. Even at that age, I have no compassion for them. None.
     
  13. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
  14. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    And that's what you call an Eichmann Frost. "I was just following orders"


    Starve the khunt and let it rot.
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    All in favor, say aye!
     
  16. ThatSlyB

    ThatSlyB Well-Known Member

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    Aug 20, 2012
    You guys sure do sound alot like a certain guy.... "I blame all of this type of people. No exceptions".


    You guys want every German male aged 18-55 during the war killed. Come on now.


    Should we humiliate our own troops for slaughtering thousands of innocents in the middle east? Aren't they just following orders when they fire those drone strikes? Or do we blame the drone?


    I don't know this guys story. Maybe he deserves it so I am not going to comment on that. But to say they should all be killed is certainly Nazi like. No one there had a choice. Im sure there were plenty who didn't want to be apart of it
     
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  17. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    The guy was a fkn Nazi dude.

    And that's why I'm not in the military.
     
  18. frost

    frost Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    wounded knee
    My Lai massacre
    errant drone bombings today
    etc etc all were following orders given
    doesn't make it right, but how many enlisted men in war time would actually stand up to a direct order and say no this is wrong?i dunno never been in the military but from what I hear very few buck an order
     
  19. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    aye!
     
  20. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Wrong. Don't twist what is being said. We're talking about people who have been proven to have had a DIRECT role in unjustly killing all these people. We're not talking all German men in the service between the ages of 18-55, but there are many for sure.