Will a surfboard delaminate and fall apart super fast if I leave it in a shipping container located in NJ for the whole summer? its a beat up board but i don't want it to delaminate where i can no longer surf it
man just surfing in new jersey is a serious task, didnt know what the dude wanted, didnt have to time to assssskk.
If it has some water in the foam then it's not going to make the situtuaon any better But the reality is that you have more it worry about then just delam... Leaving a board in extreme heat is never good- leave it in your car for a day and your car smells like resin. Better just to put the board on consignment at a local surf shop for a lot of money (like 200 more then it's worth) so it will not sell buy you got a good place to keep it... And hey if it sells-buy another board!
idk all i know is if you don't wanna board to delam, make sure its not a "Jimmy Keith" shaped in wilmington north carolina. I bought a queens ann's revenge swallow tail from south end surf shop as my first real "new" board for like 700 or something ridiculous back in the day when he was shaping out of green room and the piece of crap delamed on me 4 times before i traded it out. What a rip, never will i ever pay more then $250 bux for a surf board again.
Thats a real bummer man. I have had several JK shapes and for the most part have been happy. In fact just yesterday I rode a 5 year old custom shaped poly fish that I avsolutely love. I have no connection to the man but I think he does solid work. I do agree that 700 is way to much for a surfboard but thats more on South End for the high markup. I know things got pretty sour toward the end with greenroom so maybe he was just cranking out lower quality work then.
i mean i loved the shape and how it surfed, but it just seemed like i bought a lemon. Same thing with excell, everyone seems to love them but the seems on my suite came off after 2 months. Maybe just another lemon or something, glad yours are still going strong
Mr. Belmar- genius idea leaving gear in consignment shop. Fiber glass left in extreme heat is a definite no go. Foam will shrink; best case it won't delam but parts of board will look like a raisin
Trevo, where did it delam? I have had more than a few fellows that had a style of surfing that there was no way a board would not delam regardless of construction type or glassing. Either heavy/frequent knee duck dives instead of a foot on the tail, a tripod pop up, a heavy stomping front foot or back foot style- even the propensity to desire dark colors on the board all can result in bubbled decks. Granted the JK you had might have had a mismatched epoxy resin ratio which will make the board soft- especially in hot temps. Or an EPS blank w/ unfused beads also will do it. Extruded styrofoam boards will always delam eventually, sometimes faster than slower. Jim's boards are all very high quality from what I have seen. Do all of your boards wear in the same spot heavily? BTW, I doubt storage in a shipping container will hurt a board at all.
first delam was above the step pad on the right side (coulda been a knee but never had a problem with any other board) second was middle of the deck about half way up third was towards the nose on the right side and the fourth and final was towards the back by the stomp pad again. It was glassed with some weird epoxy thing, definitely felt flimsyer then my current poly boards. As i said i have never had any delam problems with any other board
.... the problem was South End... I've had a bunch of JK boards and never paid more than 500 for one. Also, never had a delam. I think you got double screwed, first on the price and then on an atypical issue. I bet if you reached out to Jimmy, he'd make it right... he's straight up.
Idk anything about this JK guy - but usually a shaper will send the surfbort out to a separate company to glass the surfbort. So all I'm saying is that it might not be this JK guys problem, but the classing company. Thy usually add a seperate label for the glasser if so... SOOO. What happen to the OP? Abandoned?
All solid info there...^^^ And I agree that any water in the foam, particularly cheap/unfused EPS, will delam quickly (hours) in extreme heat, including direct summer sunlight and/or super hot sand. The liquid water expands something like 1600x when it turns to vapor. I had the bottom of a board balloon right off it's core from some water that a wooden fin soaked up. The car topper it was in must have gotten so hot (Hatteras in August) it boiled itself apart! The shrinking and looking like a raisin thing is usually with cheap polyurethane foam or polystyrene foam with a low melting point. Some polystyrene foam melts at temperatures as low as 140F. Generally, quality polyurethane foam holds up in heat much better than any polystyrene foam.
Well heat is bad for any board regardless of foam or resin type ,dont let it sit in a hot room or container,or in the hot sun .i still see kooks lay their quivers out on the beach to bake in the sun melting their wax and all but man they look cool, foam will get ugly, resin gets brittle and cracks from long exposure to uv
I thought the resin actually gets soft and moves a bit before it gets to 140 ,but even then the foam will eventually peel away from the glass from impact dings ,compression dings and heat mixed with seawater
Dont push wax in the dings i have spent lot of time cutting out wax filled dings, oh and dont use uv activated polyester patch kits that the surf shops sell on your eps or xps board ,i still see people do that and it gets really ugly when they do.
