Donald Trump potus 2016

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by White Sea Ape, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
  2. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Because there are no perfect candidates, bailing out corporations at least in some way benefits employees, like the people of every ford factory saved. Trump is the embodiment of personal greed and the need to compete and compare with worthless opulence is a far more egregious example of greed.
     

  3. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Trumps ties to Russia? What ties? He tried to open some hotels there, but was unsuccessful.
    So where are these ties? Proof please.
     
  4. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Yeah so go by party.

    You want to surf in ****ty water and breathe toxic air because the GOP abolishes the EPA for corporate gain? Did you see what the air in unregulated Shanghai looks like?
     
  5. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    He sold a property in FL to a russian billionaire for many times more than the market dictated for one example, he refuses to release his tax returns(he admitted because of the political damage) maybe that damage would be because of fiscal backing from Russia, his campaign manager has literally worked installing Putin picked dictators in the past, and he demanded the GOP platform allow russia freedom to do what it wants in the Ukraine.
     
  6. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    LOL PeaJay, I'm home and just read all the silliness. I'd like to respond more to some of CodFish's
    comments but I gotta do paperwork now.
    BTW he's digging his own grave. He failed to return my comment on how the Repub Party is not what he claimed.
    Or Bill Clinton,s repeal of Glass-Steagal, which Hillary as First Lady endorsed and refuses to re-enact.
     
  7. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    In case you are NOT AWARE of it, it was the Congressional banking committee lead by Barney Frank and Cris Dodd that MADE banks finance the junk bonds that lead to the banking failure. They were required, along with Fannie May and Fanny Mac to repackage and sell the junk bonds--by legislated law (1989), which led to the problems. Had the banks NOT been supported, at this moment, both you and I would be selling pencils down on Main Street and eating at Soup Centers....
     
  8. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    The Ukraine, btw, is not our problem--it is the Ukraines.
     
  9. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    I have in fact stated that I think both parties are greedy but more importantly that social equality, the environment, gun control and tolerance are far more important to me. The republican views on all are purely repugnant. So fiscally they all want to screw us, to what degree and who gets it worse is debatable but i will use my vote to make sure that people and the environment get the respect they deserve until a fiscally responsible and socially respectable third party finally forms.
     
  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    The ACA is a tax. Do you understand the cost associated with single payer?
     
  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I was referring to your obsession with Trump and Russia.
     
  12. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    oh yea just to throw some gas on the fire,theres a trump tower resort or whatever they are in the mentawais or some place like that where he going to turn an epic surfspot into a marina or something like that.so yea trump hates surfers lol,dont know too much saw it a while ago,not that I care,just felt like sharing lol

    so Mexican surfers on welfare beware
     
  13. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    No, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc could safely have been left as "not our problem" but allowing Russia to begin annexing sovereign nations would in fact, become a major problem.
     
  14. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Would you be ok with Russia telling us how to deal with Mexico
     
  15. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Do you understand the cost associated with bloated corporate heads of healthcare, insurance, and pharma all using their profit margin against us? Single payer would eliminate insurance costs entirely, allow us to reign in massive inflation in pharma and would overall cost a fraction of our current system. No one ever said single payer law enforcement cost too much did they?
     
  16. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    I think his arguments are sound. he responded to almost everything. If you think he is digging his own grave why let him in on it? Answer his questions. Debate the topic without going off on rants. and no insults. thats just poor form.
     
  17. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    If we attempted to annex Mexico then not at all, the world would be right in damning or imperialistic move.
     
  18. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    HillRy voted for war in Iraq...just saying. Our govt needs to worry about getting our fiscal house in order first period.
     
  19. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    OK. So I guess you choose silly.
     
  20. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    I agree and Mr. Trump has spent his entire life making sure his personal finances were in far better shape then small businesses he screwed over and public coffers he worked to pay as little as possible into.