Donald Trump potus 2016

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by White Sea Ape, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Yeah all those silly scientists dont know nearly as much as Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz and all the other science deniers in the GOP.
     
  2. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Yes I do. Single payer creates a different problem. Show me where it has worked with a population as "bloated" as the U.S.
     

  3. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Living the dream brudda
     
  4. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Your single payer tax would be a fraction of your premiums and deductibles. The bloat is with the parasitic and completely useless insurers and the price gauging pharma corporations. Cut those costs and its completely feasible.
     
  5. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    don't believe I seen a proper "hello" thread mr fish get on it
     
  6. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    and this is why capitalism fails.
     
  7. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Whats that? Where do I post?
     
  8. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    1 he made good on a real estate deal. Maybe he was trying to build a hotel in Russia.
    2 He's being audited by the IRS, and will release after audit.
    3 Fiscal backing in a deal to try and build hotels in Russia?
    4 Proof?
    5 Because we have no business in foreign affairs. What the hell does the Ukraine have to do with the security and economy of the US? Nothing Also, Soros, with whom Hillary has plenty of ties with, is responsible for the Coup and mass murder in the Ukraine.
    George Washington urged against no foreign entanglements. Trump wants peace with Russia. Obama is already positioning towards a New Cold War. Hillary will follow suit.
    Look what Obama and Clinton have done to Libya and Syria. Were they a threat to the USA? No. Were they stable countries before their interventions. Yes. Are they now a hotbed breeding ground for ISIS? Yes.
     
  9. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    You plan on ignoring facts thats your problem not mine. His audit is a feint that he himself admitted and that the IRS said doesnt matter.

    We have no business in foreign affairs? what was world war 2 all about? where does Putin go next after Ukraine? You cant hide from tyrants like that forever, the world is a lot smaller than you think.

    I completely agree on Libya and Syria but Trump is on video demanding we take out Gadahfi so this debate is pointless. ISIS was created by Bush and grown under Obama, neither party has the high ground here.
     
  10. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Guns are here to stay. You'll be able to control guns just as much as drugs.
    gun-control-works2.jpg
     
  11. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    If Hillary gets in there will never be an option for a third party to get in.
    You are blind to GLOBALIZATION.
     
  12. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Sure, cherry pick your arguments. Australia has gun rights and gun control and no mass shootings. Britain has the same. But here in America we cant even have a reasonable discourse on safe and sensible gun control because morons listen to liars like Trump who say the left want to "abolish the 2nd amendment" to create a divide that only the gun corporations profit from. Meanwhile little kids and dancing couples and employees at a holiday party get mowed down by men who had no right to be allowed to purchase guns.

    I want gun control, not no guns. Argue against reasonable gun control? You can't, just repeat your dog whistle nonsense that the left is coming for your guns. You are being manipulated so easily guy.
     
  13. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Globalization is fact, get over it. The genie doesnt go back in the bottle, we cant isolate ourselves here in America and hope to survive when the rest of the world is connected. Unless you really like the North Korean lifestyle?
     
  14. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    The USA is the richest country. Other countries want our business. There will be no isolation.
     
  15. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    So basically you're for a one world government, and no more sovereignty?
    Because that's where were heading.
     
  16. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    That's globalization. It goes both ways.

    How about my gun comment? I really want to know why sensible gun control is bad.
     
  17. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    i guess reading comprehension is not your forte... It's ok.

    You're being silly in the sense that you are trying to tell others how they should feel/vote. That your way is right and theirs wrong... There is no right or wrong here so stating it as if it's fact is silly.

    And everyone telling you that you should like Trump is silly also.
     
  18. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Not in the least, globalization is a financial term in its current iteration. A one world government has never been discussed, hinted at, worked towards, or even imagined. Now your just fantasizing threats.
     
  19. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Wrong.

    A political party that degrades minorities and gay men and women and ignores the plight of the planet isnt a debate, it is literally, wrong. It's wrong and its evil. Their vote ****s up my world. just like those that fought against slavery and for womens suffrage, in the future those that fought against the dying and obsolete party will be remembered as good people. i'm just doing my part for those that dont happen to peruse surfing websites.
     
  20. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Responsible gun control is a total gun ban.

    [video]https://youtu.be/6nlhQafsx3o[/video]

    Gun control doesn't work.

    Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html#ixzz4GyAOoEMu

    AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
    http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847