Donald Trump potus 2016

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  1. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    k dude
     
  2. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Never Imagined!!!!!??????
    [video=youtube;txukr5zgHnw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw[/video]
     

  3. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    A video of a dunk chick at a bar is your cited source? Talk about tinfoil hats. Or more cherry picked statistical data? Oh, the there were 6.2 more rapes in 2006 in australia? Thats definitive proof of failed gun policy for sure.

    Tell me how we benefit as a society when James Holmes, Omar Mateen, and any other disturbed violent pyschotic person can legally buy guns. You took a class and a test to drive a car? Why isnt the same a good idea for guns?
     
  4. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    [video=youtube;Uv5cqh26CC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0[/video]
     
  5. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    genius rebuttal, i'm totally swayed by your well thought out response.
     
  6. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    How are you cite a Republican stating what you call a great evil while arguing your support for another Republican?
     
  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Hello!!!! The Repeblican Party fought to free slaves. Abe Lincoln? Founder of the Republican Party?
     
  8. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I implied earlier that ACA does not deal with the two main issues. You are right about pricing to an extent ( the best Medical R&D in the world would suffer in a major way if you crush pharma though). You see, you can't give me a working example. Consider how large our population is and ponder your point for a moment. Litigation is another big issue. But, your premise is incorrect about "single payer tax". It would be very high and the quality of care would suffer dramatically. Show me an example where it works on a scale even remOtely close to US
     
  9. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    How has capitalism failed? Our gov't has failed
     
  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Have you ever seen a P/L statement? Granted, I will concur that the bankruptcy laws are a nasty area in our economics.
     
  11. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    James Holmes was on psychotropics. Nearly all mass shootings from Columbine to Sandy Hook, the shooters were on anti-depressant meds. Yet no mention from the press aboot the dangers of these drugs. Nearly all gun violence committed is committed by criminals, not responsible gun owners. A criminal will always find a way to get his hands on a gun.
    Omar Mateen was a Radicalized Muslim.
    If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words.
    Bottom Line.
    Guns are here to stay.
    The war on drugs has meant better cheaper drugs and violence.
    A war on guns will be the same.
    I've already through this on this forum. You clearly are dead set in your opinion, and can't hear the other side.
     
  12. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    LOL. The Repubs did everything they could to not get him nominated. He threatens the establishment. He's anti Globalism. Anti NWO. HELLOOOOO!!!!!!
     
  13. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Oh good, gun control. One of my favorite subjects. Please cod, tell me your version of reasonable gun control.

    also, why do you think globalization is good? Our currency is one of our strongest attributes (built on capitalism). You are yearning for a social dynamic that can't be good for us long term as a nation.
     
  14. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    The party bases switched decades ago with the whole dixiecrat thing, who believed what under what banner a century ago does not stand now. The GOP today is racist, homophobic, and anti-science. It is, today as we debate, the party of hatred and idiocy. Abe Lincoln would never be a part of todays GOP.
     
  15. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    He is anti-any of those things because he is too dumb and has too short an attention span to even read what they are. He doesnt care about you or anyone but himself. He just want to call himself president and that human stain Pence will have free reign with a gerrymandering congress and voter suppressed senate to create the backwards conservative hell hole he so deeply wants. Trump is running for his ego, not for you.
     
  16. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Simple enough. Close the secondary market loophole, guns aren't comic books to be sold and traded by unlicensed enthusiasts. Then create a classroom style course and a law enforcement based test for licensure. It won't stop all violence but it's a start and wil save lives. Simple, logical, and only those thay shouldn't have guns, don't get guns.
     
  17. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    So once this is enacted, how do you control the black market?
     
  18. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    CODFISH, since you are all for unity, I want your opinion on the EU.
    A little reminder before you answer though.
    The EU is a coalition of sovereign nations that are dictated policies by unelected officials.
    So to expand on this. Do you agree that this is not a definition of dictatorship, and why do you welcome a dictatorship?
    After all Hiltler was a dictator, as many others that led to the destruction of freedom.
    Just curious. You see the TPP gives corporations diplomatic immunity over sovereign nations and their laws. Essentially, major corporations will rule the world, and any elected official is powerless.
    Now who has major ties to these global corporations. Clintons. Obama, Bushes, Heads Of the World Banks, Saudi Royalties.
    HMMMM so you like being a slave?
     
  19. Panhandler

    Panhandler Well-Known Member

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    Oct 27, 2015
    ^^That is an amazing statement. Spoken by a true member of the party of inclusion. Guess you never heard of the term Southern Democrat, Jim Crowe, or who sponsored the kkk at its inception. I know, but but that's the repubs now...as though there is actually a difference between the two
    The Hil knowingly defended rapists as a lawyer, under the guise of she was doing her civic duty and her job. So job/money/success over moral standard is acceptable, yet trump is the bad man. Got it, no hypocrisy there.
    You support single payer, cool, its worked for Switzerland right, and Holland, etc. Well now that they have saturated their numbers with 3rd world "refugees", now they can't sustain and medical system is fracturing. Expand that to our current situation here in the US, with our growing population. Single payer only works when everyone pays in. Do you propose actually enforcing immigration, and magically have all of those currently here and undocumented pay "their fair share". If so, you may have a logical point, I agree prevention is cheaper.
    You mentioned cherry picking and Englands gun laws, but left out the pesky spat of stabbings by those really friendly progressives singing allah allah oxanfree. Not even the street cops could do anything because of their gun laws. There is that other side of the coin again.
    I am in no way affiliated to either party, and I appreciate the obvious passion you put into your trolls. We all want whats best, its when we don't allow others to their opinions is when we truly fail. You mention their vote ....s up your world, some that try to see the whole picture and how ....ed both sides have been and currently are, they might absolutely be convinced your vote will ...k up theirs. Peace bro, divided we fall
     
  20. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Like I said, not a magic wand guy, you can't just wish away all the world's problems, nor did I say that. What you can do is make reasonable changes thay save some lives and don't hurt anyone.