Donald Trump potus 2016

You forgot to mention the ***fact*** that Obama has taken the least amount of vacation days of any President since Carter, but then again you do like your facts red and cherry shaped.

And let's face it, a Presidential *vacation* day is relative, probably half of every vacation day is spent working. I'd be far more concerned with a President who didn't have an outlet to relieve stress.

 

....let's jus bottom line it. Inflation adjusted. Obama has spent more of our tax dollars (past, present, and future) than any other president in the history of the country.

Who gives a shat about golf dayz....we are heading towards 20 trillion in debt.

 

Mr. Trump proposes to cut the U.S. corporate rate to 15% from 35% (or 40% counting average state rates). Fifteen percent is low enough to deter inversions while making the country more attractive to capital investment and better primed for higher wages. He would also offer a preferential rate of 10% for the $2 trillion already earned overseas.

Mrs. Clinton calls this tax-cutting for billionaires and corporate-jet owners, which shows how unhappy her Presidency could be. Such Trumpian pragmatism—10% of $2 trillion is better than 35% of $0—is the only realistic way for Mrs. Clinton to fund her infrastructure plan, and Republicans in Congress have sounded out Democrats for such a deal for years. President Obama has rebuffed their entreaties, settling for nothing—and now Mrs. Clinton is setting herself up for the same.

As for Mr. Trump, he could be pointing out that his corporate-tax plan would raise worker incomes, as most economic research suggests. And why not challenge Mrs. Clinton for supporting a status quo that is driving jobs and investment overseas? And maybe even benefiting China, Mexico and Japan?

After nearly a decade of Obama-Clinton economics, the country needs a debate about how to revive growth and raise incomes. The corporate-tax proposals show that whatever Mr. Trump’s risks as President, the main risk from Mrs. Clinton is four more years of the same dismal economic performance.

 

What ya'll fail to recognize is that the companies holding huge sums overseas will not bring it home and hire people... it will bring it home and return it to investors (ie the stock market). While that will benefit me tremendously, it won't help workers. Keep in mind, the stock market repeatedly has broken records over Obama's presidency. He has been GREAT for corporations. This is a classic "trickle down" economics argument that if you let corporations and the wealthy keep more of their money, they will reinvest it in jobs and capital purchasers. The problem is that the theory has been debunked by 35 years of trial... Regan started it, Bush tried again, and workers wages stayed stagnant. The real answer is to impose taxes on US based corporations oversees profits, whether they bring them home or not.

In addition, the only way that corporations will invest money in the American worker is if they are forced to. This means minimum wages, reducing overtime exemptions and requiring companies to provide their employees with benefits (retirement, medical insurance, paid leave, maternity leave, etc.) Corporate America is not going to just "give" money to workers... they are required to be loyal to shareholders first, and foremost. Its called fiduciary duty and it extends to shareholders... not employees.

 

Corporate earnings over this time period have been below average. The reason the market is doing so well is b/c of the FED's sugar high. Once the punch bowl I taken away, you will see. And why has the punch bowl not been taken away? Funny you should ask. B/c the economy is not doing very well. The labor participation rate is through the roof. And that is that.

As for takes on US based Corpos overseas profits. They will just move overseas at a faster rate compared to the current enviro.

$15 minimum wage will not help the economy or the stagnate wage argument.

If, the overseas money comes back and is distributed to investors like you and me, we will spend it....Fact. That will help the economy. Capital investment in the US has been on the downward for decades.

 

JayD nails it by discussing Facts.

Asshat Donkey swings & misses, again, because it focuses on politics & not economics.

Additinally, asshat donkey, it s/b noted that you don't know the first thing about running a company (yes, I do). Thus, you are merely regurgitating political shpeckle (and bear in mind that there's few pols who know anything at all about running a company).

An array of more & higher taxes, aka more govt intervention in business & in lives is NOT the answer. You believe it is. Prove how that is an efficient, free-market solution with facts.

 

Bullpoop. They will bring it home and invest in new ventures, and yes, invest some in Wall Street. That is exactly what they should do. It is THE reason morons such as yourself have a job.
I worked for one of them companies holding vasts amount overseas and I think they are doing the exact correct thing. Why?? To keep jackass liberals like yourself who think they are "entitled" to it from stealing it from them when you have contributed ZERO to their efforts.
You are a parasite, you advocate parasitism, and will always be WORSE off because of it.
But I would still have a beer with you, provided of course, that you pick up the tab...<grin>

 

Dude... where are the politics in my post? Saying trickle down economics does not work is not political... it is fact. It has been disproven over and over.

I do run a company... hence my ridiculing of Archy's claim to run a business, but one that can't afford to provide health insurance to his employees OR HIMSELF!!! That is not successful... that is barely scrapping by. I don't hold it against him that he is not financially successful, only that he holds himself out as such... there is nothing dishonorable about working hard and making a blue collar living.

Similarly, I said nothing about higher taxes, although I do believe that higher income individuals should pay more taxes. I include myself in that...

The problem with insult hurling, close minded conservatives is that you don't understand or care about the science or math behind this stuff. I get your argument, as it sounds common sense (let wealthy people keep their money and they will spend it), but time and science has proven that trickle down economics does not work. What works is responsible spending of tax dollars. Its how we survived the Great Depression, not by cutting government spending, but by increasing it in ways that benefit all Americans.

I continue to believe the answer is not giving people money, but forcing them to work for it. Don't you think that requiring people to do public works jobs in return for unemployment, welfare, food stamps, etc. is a good idea? If the welfare state actually produced something like paved roads, clean streets, volunteer teacher aides, etc.?

We would all be better off if we discussed how to more intelligently spending tax dollars... leaving it all to individuals won't work. Reducing taxes for the rich does not work...

 

Barry, you are a Troll...

I've not taken a damn thing from our government, except public education, driving on the roads, being protected by the police, breathing clean air, surfing in clean water, being free to do all the foregoing... damn I guess I have taken something from our government... have you? None of those things?

As for welfare, as I've said repeatedly... make people work for it. It worked in the Great Depression... it would work now.

After we put everyone back to work, the bridges are fixed, our country military is equipped, water and air are clean, children well educated... THEN we can cut taxes.

 

First, cut Gov't waste then talk about the aforementioned.

 

has it been this flat for so long that the info has gone discourse again? besides pintail..military needs to be cut to insane proportions unless we want to keep up our imperialist polices of dominance over third world counties...which our cronies do. To the nationalist screaming go trump and meria.... Sorry but nationalism is a disease to the whole human populace making you not even realize how similar you are to people such as common Iranian. let the hate flow.

 

you do know that we have the 13th amendment to the constitution right?

 

good luck forcing ppl to work

 

asshat donkey, the above may be your version of offering an olive branch, I can't really tell though.

I'm going to call BS on your claim that you run a company.

No effing way, no effing way!!
And that's easy: based solely upon your claims that more govt is better, that govt is efficient, that more govt taxation is better, that more govt involvement in private sector leads to positive results.

Thee is no way that you have any idea how to run a company based upon your own asshattery comments.

BCuda might be blunt but he ain't no troll, asshat donkey. YOU are the troll. You post stuff because you read it in the NYT or on the NPR website. You're brainwashed & you just don't get it.

May I quote from the 'Saurus: "omg, so much dumb here it hurts"

 

# impacting the coast for Jesus and Karl Marx

 

There is just NO EFFING WAY that any person who runs a company is lining up for more taxes, aka govt butt hurt.

asstail donkey, you're so full of dung that it's emerging out of your floppy ears as Democratic brainwashing.

 

Not sure if this was posted in this thread yet, but it's a must watch!


ROFL.........http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw

 

And I am not saying that you should vote for The Don. At least get your shiiiite straight in re the facts, sparkies.

Less taxes = betterment of mankind. Keep it simple, strokes.

 

I don't know a heck of a lot about runnin a big company, but I do know this...

Every time any company even thinks about makin it big, they are immediately savaged by the govmint as being evil bastards. It's like Whack a Mole or somethin.

I thought folks started companies to risk what $ they have, and try to make a little more.

Why on earth would someone want to keep their company here in the US? Every action of govmint forces them to move offshore.

Get a govmint that cheers a successful company, and you'll get more of them comin home, I figger.

Hell, it's almost ill-f***in-legal to have a successful biz in the US these days.

The govmint is TOO DANG BIG... and theys droolin for any nickel they can find.

Just like crack hoes, but way less fun.