Hellery Vs Donald POLL

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by White Sea Ape, Aug 25, 2016.

Hellery or Donald

  1. Hellery

    30.3%
  2. Donald

    69.7%
  1. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Okay. I'll give you that. But we all know Donald has a loud mouth that says some things he might not mean at the time.
    This to me is is minor.
    Obama and Hillary both are founders of ISIS with their failed foreign policies.
    In saying that, yes its sarcastic, but true. Their malice of foresight and action in N. Africa and the Middle East are the reason ISIS (Al Qaeda) has gained power.
    He hasn't flipped at all. You need to look beyond mainstream interpretation to know what he's said.
    Like maybe watch his speeches instead of having someone else tell you what he said.
    I think your comparing apples to oranges here.
    Hillary says, in a written speech none the less, Putin and Trump are scheming to take control of the US.
    Trump gives a statement, without time to react, that is not well thought out.
    Big Big difference.
    Again, I don't hold Trump to this high God like standard, thinking he's gonna change the world,
    but if HillBillary gets in, say goodbye to your freedom.

    We're all human and no one is perfect, Trump include.
    I'm okay with him making a few mistakes. You give me one lie that is questionable (Japan nukes)
    I'll give you 100's of outright lies coming from Hillary.
    Whether you vote or not, care or not, one of em will be Prez.
    Dictatorship or Freedom are the choices.
     
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  2. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    that's bullshyt bro,bush started the war.if saddam was still alive,there wouldn't be an isis,syria wouldn't be in a civil war.when ur the president/dictator of a nation full of retarded fukin crazy ppl,u have to torture them,gas them,kill them,do genocide,whatever it takes to keep those fukers at bay.

    all of this could've been avoided,like we could've still gone to war with Iraq and take saddam out,but when u disband the entire armed forces of Iraq,ur going to have terrorists.these guys are trained to kill,build bombs,etc,then u take away their job,they go find a new job working for the bad guys
     

  3. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    I saw something recently on tv,during desert storm,a stealth got blown out the sky.the pilot eventually made it to Syria where he was greeted with open arms.that happens today,the pilot will be beheaded on youtube
     
  4. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Absolutely, Yanqui.

    If this is the result of head trauma, then it is what it is.

    OTOH, this just seems like another disingenuous ploy (read, "lie") on Hildebeast's part in another sad attempt to escape the clutches of truth and justice.

    Seriously, I had to Google to find any previous history of The Beast having a "serious brain injury". CBS, who is firmly in Hilde's corner, reported that she ''had a fall'' shortly before having to testify about Benghazi. Shortly thereafter, the New York Times (do I even need to say it?) reported that a State Department official stated that the alleged concussion "was not severe". Nonetheless, she used her alleged concussion as an excuse to not appear before a pair of committees with questions regarding Benghazi.

    Kinda sounds like getting a note from your parents to give to your school saying you've been "sick", after you've been ditching school for a week to go surfing.
     
  5. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    even the Donald agrees we should've left saddam alone lol...bush and his cronies left the next president with a shytlist,if Romney or McCain got in,we'd be blaming them right now for isis and the economy and everything else that is wrong
     
  6. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Eh em, Obama pulled out of Iraq, thus creating a void for ISIS.

    Obama and Hillary took out Qaddafi. He kept Libya from becoming what it is today. A breeding ground for ISIS.

    Obama and Hillary are funding Al Qaeda (ISIS) in Syria.

    If you want to get all technical about it, then Jimmy Carter is the founder of ISIS.
     
  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    And if Donald gets in and the economy goes to shyt it'll be his fault. :eek:
     
  8. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    I agree, Iraq was as bad a mistake as Vietnam...no doubt about it. And it's all on GW Bush.

    And I agree that if Romney or McCain were elected, they would be responsible for everyone and everything under their watch.

    Therefore, any feces that hits the blades falls directly under the responsibility of the current POTUS...Dem or Repub. If it happens under your watch, *you* own it.

    If you've been elected, then whatever happened before you were elected is now *your* responsibility. Fix it. If you can't, OWN IT. Quit blaming it on the other guys.

    Or you're just another tired old "victim".
     
  9. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Also, I think Cheney started the war. Bush was just a wind up toy.
     
  10. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    True. But he had to be convinced. Don't forget about that whole "he tried to kill my daddy" thing he had going on.

    The Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld Triumvirate. I didn't think we could get any worse.

    Boy, was I wrong.
     
  11. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Exactly unless you're Obama.
    The left owned media didn't waste a breath on blaming Bush for the '08 market crash, when in reality it was Clinton who repealed the Glass-Stegall Act.
     
  12. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Not exactly my point, Arch.

    Honestly, I don't know the true main issue with the Recession. And I really don't care. My point is, Bush was at the helm for almost 8 years when the recession hit. Glass-Stegall Act or not, all this sh1t hit the fan under *his* watch. Therefore, the Crash was his fault for either not foreseeing it, forestalling it or outright fixing it.

    I distinctly remember making quite a bit of $$$ on my portfolio for a number of years under GWB up until the crash, with the Dow topping out over 14,000 for the first time in history. Of course, they all took the bows for that.

    And I distinctly remember that GWB was being questioned regularly about the stock market rumors approximately 1-2 months prior to the crash. His canned response was that the market was strong, healthy and fine and there was absolutely nothing to worry about.

    Then, after the market started sinking like a Joe Pesci character with a new pair of cement shoes over the Hudson, GWB quickly replaced the Treasurer with Henry Paulson, a CEO with Sachs Goldman (basically, an insider), who turned out to be a total frigging idiot.

    But I also distinctly remember that nobody in the GWB administration pointing fingers at the previous Clinton administration. It was what it was, and was identified thusly: the recession was a result of both a worldwide financial crisis, quickly followed by the subprime mortgage disaster. Glass-Stegall was a major factor, but not necessarily the overriding factor. Capiche?

    During the elections (for which I voted for "Hope and Change" lol), I related to my wife that these situations usually right themselves after time, and that whoever gets elected will be able to crow about how they "turned around the financial crisis"...even though it would have eventually worked itself out.

    So, as much as some of us don't like it, Obama and his minions have every right to crow loudly about how their policies brought us out of the Recession. Because, as luck would have it, it happened on his watch.

    It will be interesting to see how the years of unorthodox "Quantitative Easing" and artificially low prime interest rates will play out after this election...and how the next round of finger-pointing is played out if and when we fail again.
     
  13. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    u know I agree with that 100% we been training rebels in Syria for the past 6 yrs or so.cant tell the difference between the good ones and the bad ones,if there is any.

    and yea cheney was the man pulling the strings,also Donny rumsfield,even tho I disagree with everything they did in their lifetime,i respect them for getting away with the shyt they did.rumsfield been pulling strings since the 70s
     
  14. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    did u ever read the story about that,i think they even have a movie now about that 08 market crash with the mortgage scams,selling houses made of flammable materials knowing they will burn and such.giving out loans to ppl they knew couldn't afford it,then the gov covers all the costs and fuks everyone else.its amazing man I wish I was in that line of work
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I did watch his speeches... He definitely did say that stuff and was softening (to the crowd he was speaking to). He came back strong only after he was criticized from his followers. He was trying to get some of the Latino vote, but I'm sure realized it was backfiring and he'd lose more than he'd gain. He's trying to win.

    I'm not saying their lies are equal and I agree that the things Hilary has lied about have been far more damaging to the country. My point was just that they both lie. He just hasn't had the opportunity to do any damage with his YET. So I guess that gets him the benefit of the doubt... But I don't trust one word he says.

    And as for as Japan and the ISIS comments. I don't care that he said what he said (even though it is crazy to have someone run for president that thinks arming Japan with nukes is a good idea)... That is what a normal person would say. "Let Japan deal with those fu*ks. Why send our troops, give them nukes and let them deal with their own sh!t."
    But he just comes off like a weasel when he says "I never said that" or "I was being sarcastic" when he knows he said it and he said 24 hours earlier "I'm not being sarcastic."

    Be a man and say "yes I said that sh!t." Especially when your whole campaign is based on calling out your opponent for her lies.

    He calls Bill a rapist and and a sex predator (which I happen to agree with)... If you knew someone was a sexual predator would you invite them to your wedding??? It's hypocritical, POLITICAL, bullsh!t.

    They both suck balls, so I won't vote for either... Only reason I would vote for Trump is to vote against Cokfish. Fu*k that guy
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    awesomeness :cool:
     
  17. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
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  18. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    A young black male shot and wounded a cop in AC today. The cop's partner shot and killed the black male.
    The black male's mother: "All I know is my son is dead and I want some answers!"
    Here's your answer mom: your f@cking son shot a cop! What did you think was going to happen? A grease down and a shiatsu?
    F@cking Idiots.
     
  19. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Wow, another crime that will never make the Lamestream News outside of AC, because it doesn't fit the current "victim" narrative. Shocking.

    Thanks for posting this Chavo.
     
  20. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    Your welcome Kid. The Philly news interviewed the dead suspect's mom and not the wounded cops wife.