Hellery Vs Donald POLL

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by White Sea Ape, Aug 25, 2016.

Hellery or Donald

  1. Hellery

    30.3%
  2. Donald

    69.7%
  1. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    You know, the DNC has been holding that video of Trump as a "trump card". They knew it would supersede anything in the news, so they waited for the wikileaks to be released. They are evil incarnate. Trump is stupid incarnate.
    I will still write in my candidate Speedy Gonzales...smarter than both of the others...and faster as well....
     

  2. Valhallalla

    Valhallalla Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2013
    o barry, that's how politics works. It's called the "October Surprise" in case you didn't know. It's nothing new. You release your dirt at the approriate time to achieve maximum effect. It's no different than the Wikileaks email stuff. Mr Assange has had that material for some time and is releasing it now, timed for maximum effect. Both items are being reported in the media. It just so happens that the Dem's dirt is more effective than the email stuff and therefore trumps it in the news. Also, Mr Trump just won't STFU for his own good.

    This election is not aboot policy. It's aboot rhetoric and dirt. The nation will suffer for it. Sad.
     
  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Exactly... They knew Wikileaks would be leaking the emails and hand a counter punch ready.

    And like Valhallalla said, all they had to do is get the tapes and accusers out there and let Trump do the rest.
    At the very least we get to see how poorly he operates in a crisis situation.
     
  4. HaydukeLives!

    HaydukeLives! Well-Known Member

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    Mar 24, 2015
    I think both candidates suck. All I am hoping for is that I can someday feel like I can bring a child into a world that isnt totally ****ed, and that Ill be able to teach them how to surf in clean water, respect their fellow humans and live intentionally.

    I'm definitely not voting for trump, but not sure which way to go otherwise. Hillary is a train wreck, Johnsons agenda with pot seems to outweigh things that actually matter, Jill stein... well what the fack does she even stand for?

    No vote is wasted (except in 2016)
     
  5. KOOKamungya

    KOOKamungya Well-Known Member

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    Jun 18, 2014
    media agenda
    Monday- start race war -talk about a Kardashian
    Tuesday- start gender war -talk about a Kardashian
    Wednesday- start religious war -talk about a Kardashian
    Thursday-start political war -talk about a Kardashian
    Friday-talk about a Kardashian
    Weekend-condense all of the above, over and over again, preferably with a round table of talking heads, who talk over each other.
     
  6. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
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  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Maybe. Not what I was referring to though. I know I wasn't too clear, what I was referring to is her skepticism regarding the allegations on Trump. She made very valid points.

    Another thing is that Clinton's victims are exactly that, victims, meaning it's been proven. Trumps are just allegations, with zero proof other than he said she said, at least that I've seen anyway. People are very quick to rush to judgement because they saw a video of him saying crude things and because he has a history of being foul mouthed. All this doesn't make him a rapist or a groper, or whatever they are claiming. In America you are innocent till proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent like the media and media sheeple like things to be.

    C'mon, 3 Weeks before the election? Please, people have to be smarter than this. You don't have to like Trump to see they are trying to do whatever they can to prevent him from being elected, because he's doing very well in the election and poses a real threat. A lot more of threat than they thought initially.

    The media can't be trusted, everybody knows this, so why now does everybody take what they say as gold? Because of some video and a past of saying dumb sh*t?

    Let's see if anything actually comes of these allegations, or if they are simple lies used to sway the vote. Maybe it'll work and people will vote Hillary, but I for one am not. I don't believe it, it's just too clear to me that this has all been choreographed by the media and Trump haters from both sides.

    All they needed to make this believable was a little video and some quotes of his from the past and then some allegations (that they most likely fabricated) to create a pile on, something the American public seems to LOVE. It's text book really. It was a lay up, and they went for it. It's not too hard to smear someone's name anymore, people will believe anything these days.
     
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  11. White Sea Ape

    White Sea Ape Well-Known Member

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    Dec 8, 2013
    Trumps campaign is testament to the american dream, if people are still struggling with trump then I assume they are also very persuaded by monumental media sources like NYT, Post, CNN, Fox
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Gotcha. I was just going by the quote you had there, which said " Is it right for others to double my shame by using my pain for their own political purposes?" Which is exactly what Trump did.

    First off. I think Clinton is a complete scumbag.
    He paid off one "victim" $850K for showing her his co*k and asking her to bang (which I'm sure he did)... The rest showed up after he paid her off. That's "proven" to you?
    Not saying they didn't occur, but if you're skeptical about Trumps accusers they you should also be of Bills.

    I'm not saying the media isn't pushing for this, but you think they make it all up? Or do they make sure it gets out to screw Trump.

    You honestly think the media just found 9 women that have encountered Trump and got them to agree to accuse him of these things? If they did, I'm sure there would be plenty that said no. Where are those women? You don't think someone would say that they were approached to lie?

    You do know he was accused of raping that 13 year old girl, with his buddy Jeff Epstein, in 1994. And that accusation was made in the Spring. The hearing is in December.

    My point is that I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. Is the media trying to crush Trump? Absolutely.
    But that doesn't mean that everyone is lying.
     
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Fair enough, I want to see more facts and less hersay, but the election will be over with before anything and the damage will be done, which is why it doesn't matter if it's true or not, just the accusations alone will sway some folks. Hopefully not enough though.
     
  14. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    Did you feel like you were in a Walmart Supercenter?
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I hear ya... but I think it's over already. He needs to be focusing on his positives vs her negatives and not this crap... it's like they got in his head and he can't not talk about it. He's worried about SNL and who bill was banging.
    And the media and Clinton campaign are sitting back wishing it was nov 8 already.
     
  16. White Sea Ape

    White Sea Ape Well-Known Member

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    Dec 8, 2013
    no actually, because walmart super center is full of food stamp junk food eating progressive drones like yerself.

    the trump rally was full of white people and some blacks, but mostly normal looking people, 10 thousand of em
     
  17. Valhallalla

    Valhallalla Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2013
    Mr Trump isn't running for president anymore. Never really was. He loves the campaigning, the attention, the crowded arenas with cheering fans. He doesn't love the idea of being POTUS. He's setting up his next venture to commence on November 9. He can go on campaigning forever with that.

    Losers make excuses and blame others (media bias, rigged election, voter fraud, etc). People who know they are losing make those excuses before the game is even over.
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Don't count your chickens just yet. Trump still has a great shot at winning. Most people aren't buying this BS lol