Hellery Vs Donald POLL

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Hellery or Donald

  1. Hellery

    30.3%
  2. Donald

    69.7%
  1. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Of course there are people braking the law. What he did WAS illegal and he was arrested...

    But that doesn't mean a real Dr. shouldn't be allowed to save a woman's life in a dire situation.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Save the woman yes, if she is dying, of course... but does that require killing a baby that is 9 months and soon to be delievered? Can't they attempt to save both? My nephews were 2 months premature and still made it, at 9 months they have a great chance. Adopt them out if the woman dies and no father or family member to take them
    in.
     

  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Is some cases it might be required yes. And like I said, the baby may be brain dead from the accident as well.. I know it sounds extreme, but that is the kind of sh!t the law is for
     
  4. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    DP what in the flying fock are you drinking down there?
     
  5. mattinvb

    mattinvb Well-Known Member

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    Sep 9, 2014
    I understand your point of view. However, I happen to firmly believe people like Dr. Carson (a pediatric neurosurgeon) when they state that in today's modern society with all of our advanced medical technology, that situations like what your describing are now virtually non-existent.
     
  6. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Lawyers have you guys talking about the minutia of law regarding abortion. That should be a side issue, if at all.
    The real issue, the central point, is that no matter at what "trimester" an abortion is done, it is homicide. You are ending a life. Life is a continuity; disruption of that continuity sucks.
    The USA should hold a plebiscite on the issue--yes or no.
    No male should be allowed to vote; females only.
    Transgenders can go fvck themselves (instead of kill themselves, regrettably).
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I believe you do what you can to save both. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out, but at least you tried to do the right thing.

    Last night it was Sierra Nevada Oktoberfest, but this morning it's just water. :cool:

    +1 This is what i'm talking about NYNJ.

    I tend to agree with you but there are circumstances that I think are understandable, rape victims and incest being a couple exceptions.
     
  8. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    that was funny :cool:
     
  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Breaking out the shine early boy! WOOOO! HAHAHA
     
  10. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Of course it's rare and my not be exactly how I described, but there are instances when you have to make a decision, wife or baby.

    I hope nobody ever has to make that decision, but it is a decision the family should be allowed to make.
     
  11. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Ben Carson the same doctor who doesn't believe in Evolution?
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    That's what's funny. I didn't actually mean to get in to this debate. I personally don't give a fu*k and wouldn't vote for someone because of their stance on abortion. I do think it should be up to the woman to choose, but I don't really don't give that much of a fu*k.

    I was just saying I think it was a mistake for the Donald to say push pro life with the segment of the population he was trying to sway last night
     
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Honestly, I don't think he's worried too much about that segment because he probably realizes there is nothing he can say to win their vote, most of them at least. He was making sure to keep the votes he already had and also simply standing up for what he believes in.
     
  14. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Ben Carson quote

    “As a physician who does not believe in abortion, when faced with a patient who has severe medical problems, I would refer someone for an abortion,”
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    He should care. He won't with with just his current votes... But I guess he could have been targeting the bible thumpers that may not be on his side and choosing not to vote at all.
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I think there is a difference between this and someone deciding they don't want the baby or don't think they can take care of it and getting a shady doctor to say it was an emergency and getting the abortion for the wrong reasons.
     
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I think he probably has a lot more votes locked up than you think. The media and the polls are BS, so I don't think he's doing as bad as they claim. It's gonna be interesting to see how this turns out. Did the DNC and media do enough to fix this thing or will he overcome the odds in a landslide popular vote. Time will tell.
     
  18. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
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  19. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Maybe they are. But the polls are always BS when he's losing. When they are positive for him they are great
     
  20. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    But you are saying that this person shouldn't get to choose, because someone else may break the law.

    Again. It's like saying nobody should have guns because some shady guy may be selling them on the corner