2016 Election

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by Sniffer, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Yes, you are right. It is sick. I consider myself a libertarian but Trump's stance on issues align with my libertarian views. If I looked at him a year ago on tv, I would get sick. The problem is we need someone with these stances in government. The problem is will he keep his word or become part of the machine. I think there is more to lose with Hillary. One thing I don't like about Trump is he seems very neo-con. That is the one thing I'm against. I'm for wiping out ISIS but I fear if we increase military spending out the ass, we will have another war and I think we should be closing our bases all over the world and protecting our country at home. Trump still has the edge there for me because we might have war while I think a war or conflict with Russia is definite if Hillary wins.
     
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  2. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Look if you want to live in a reality where CNN and Rachel Maddow tell you how it is then go right ahead and enjoy. I will live in a world of reason and logic with the use of my own observations.

    Trump has rallies where 20-30 thousand people show up waiting in traffic and lines for half a day. Hillary has rallies with maybe 500 where half are being paid to be there (Kaine had a rally with 30 People yesterday, hahaha!).

    The methodology of polls conservatively have been 36% Dems 27% Repubs 31% Independents. Since when are there more Idependents than Repubs in this country?!?

    The Blacks dont like the Clintons anymore, the hispanics want jobs and prefer to have a man over a woman to run things.

    Its going to be a Landslide for Trump whether you want to accept it or not. Rigging is a major part of the Democrats gameplan, they need it in order to beat the Goodness of the Trump Movement. I understand its hard to accept that you are on the wrong side of history, but dont worry we will make sure your liberal heart continues to beat to its own drum.
     

  3. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    You should get your arsenal ready before Hillary gets into office. If she reforms the 2nd amendment, I will be keeping my guns in a safe place. They will not be taken by a government monkey.
     
  4. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    This is the part that scares me. Put aside the ridiculous sh!t he says and does.

    He literally had opposite views of major points he's now running on (gun laws and abortion)... He obviously changed his stance when he realized he'd need to to get the right on his side. What's to say he won't change on other things just as easily.
     
  5. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    True.
    But any of that is better than Hillary. Anything.
     
  6. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I understand your point. I have also changed my stance on issues over my life too. I just have to hope he holds his beliefs now while in office. All politicians change their stances and lie to the masses to tell them what they want to hear. I will just take my chance with Trump. I know what I'm getting with Hillary and it's not pretty. I'll take a candidate with my libertarian views and just trust that something happens.
     
  7. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012

    That's crazy dude. If you think it's going to be a landslide in either direction you have had way too much Kool-Aid
     
  8. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I'm sure you changed you views as you grew up. Not from age 60-70...

    I can't hate on anyone for taking their chance with Trump. I don't trust him, but I don't trust her either. So I understand
     
  9. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    U didnt read my entire post bro. I laid out my Kool-Aid recipe...
     
  10. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Either way, the next four years will be a challenge. Both candidates are NOT to be trusted, but for those that vote, hold your nose as you enter the booth.
    So, for me, the ONLY reason to vote is the appointment of Supreme Court judges. Nothing else matters. It is a long term stance, but the short term......again, both candidates are unhinged and insane.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Lol Will do. I can't imagine it coming to that, but never know.
     
  12. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    You guys are ridiculous if you were really that concerned you woulda had them by now. And you're gonna need more than a sidearm if you really think sh!ts gonna hit the fan. That .40 can't lay down or respond to suppression fire.


    #lovemyriflehatethenra
     
  13. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I read it.
    Saying that he is taking the majority of the black and Hispanic vote is just wrong... He can say "I'm doing great with the Blacks" but that doesn't make it true.

    Having a lot of people at a rally doesn't mean you are winning.... And I don't see many of the blacks at his rallies, even though he's doing great with them
     
  14. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    #9fukin12
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I'm just Joshin you guys, I don't think it's going to seriously happen. Sure there will be in increase in crazy sh*t going down, but I'll be surfing if anybody needs me.
     
  17. PA_KOOK

    PA_KOOK Well-Known Member

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    Apr 4, 2016
    Serious question: Hillary passes 2nd amendment reform, all handguns are now banned from civilian ownership. Knock, knock, turn in your gun. I know we're all sitting anonymously on an internet forum and inevitably we have some big talkers but at what point do you say **** it and turn it in? Talking about armed rebellion at that point? I guess if you have no family than maybe you say f*ck it and go out in your blaze of glory (i.e., #K1llurslef) but I can't see myself taking that position so I'm curious to hear from someone who is worried about that situation.

    Disclaimer: will likely vote Trump but not really excited about the prospect, do not own guns, goal is to be left alone. Do not think legal gun ownership is a problem that needs fixing.
     
  18. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    This^^ is a problem for a socialist/communist government we are being moved to by Hillary, et al. Yo must be a "comrade" ....or else.
     
  19. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    They can have my bb / pellet gun.
     
  20. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    You guys want to really know who the NRA wants as President??? Hillary Clinton. She is their number #1 sales person. If she gets elected they will continue to pump up the volume which = $$$$$$$$ for the gun industry they promote. Too funny how easy it is to manipulate the American public.

    BTW, Obama Care premiums are going up 22% on average next year. But hey let's worry about some billionaire and his bogus "rigged" claims instead.