Donald Trump potus 2016

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  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Well thought out post.
     
  2. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I agree and think this a really bad development in American politics. Most politicians are saying things for well over a year prior to each election that are complete BS and that they will ignore AS SOON as the election is over. When it was just jabbing one liners at each other "I knew Jack Kennedy and you're no Jack Kennedy..." it was one thing...just kind of political trash talking.

    I just don't think you can compartmentalize 40% of everything you've been saying about your opponent (or the American public, whatever) for the past year and dismiss it as the "insult box" that you get a free pass on. My sense for about the last 10 years it that it has gone to another level. Politicians are dismissing entire years-long slabs of rhetoric (really nasty stuff that crosses the line into personal attacks, attacks on family members and worst of all attacks on policy matters) as just..."well you know elections get ugly and after November we all move on" i.e business as usual.

    I find it cynical and confirms most American's view that politicians will say anything, do anything, and promise anything to get elected and will then expect to be held accountable for as little of what they said as possible. I'm not even sure that a politician who actually refrained from stuff would stand a chance of getting any media coverage. For sure social media would just ignore them.
     
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  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Good points. I believe you are correct sir.
     
  4. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    elections are won by not what the candidates say they will do,but by slandering the other candidate by all means necessary.the one less dirty becomes president
     
  5. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Excellent points.
     
  6. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    We get shat upon

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  7. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    Definitely some good PR for Trump, and obviously great news for those 1000 workers, but the reality is that Mexico is no longer the job stealing bogeyman it once was. The bogeyman today is automation. For every 1 factory job that goes to Mexico, 9 are lost in the US due to automation. Soon we'll be at a point where entire factories are run by just a few people whose only job is to monitor the robots.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    True that, but every little bit helps, and he said it's a minimimun of 1,100 jobs, and that number will grow. He plans on doing this with more companies. I bet Carrier's sales spike now too, so it's a win-win.
     
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    What did Carrier get to keep the jobs here? He made a deal, but what was their gain?
     
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    7 Million in tax breaks over 10 years.
     
  11. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    So if you do that with a few hundred companies where do those taxes come from? Raise them for the middle class?
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Not from what he's saying. He plans on lowering for a good portion of middle class. Good question though.
     
  13. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    From what I understand, the new administration plans on cutting programs to increase revenue. Which programs they wish to cut remains to be seen.

    Yeah, I know lol.
     
  14. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Just stop Welfare payments to those cheats that should not be on it. That is about 75% of them. Then you can balance the Worlds budget, never mind the USA. Send the cheats back to Mejico.....
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I think we all can agree that the government wastes plenty of our tax money. Hopefully it now gets put to good use.
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    somebody has to build and fix the robots don't they??
     
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    They'll have robots that fix the robots, and robots to fix those robots, and so on. :cool:
     
  18. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
  19. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
  20. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    until she gets her orange jumpsuit