Trump / FBI / Russians

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by backside hack, May 12, 2017.

  1. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Rage was a killer band, but it's pretty hypocritical when your message is tearing down the Capitalist system all while reaping the rewards of it.
    I enjoy their music but listening to them talk ish is annoying.
     
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  2. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I'm just raking the muck. It's been flat here for a while and just windchoppe in sight. But they are banking so don't be judging them. Raging Capitalists with lots of talent ca$hing in, God Ble$$ America

    Kinda like Trump.
     

  3. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    I hear ya, but there logo [​IMG] is suspiciously similar to ANTIFA.
    Just sayin.
    I guess they're duping their audience, but if you ever listen to Tom Morrello talk you'd think otherwise.
    But IDK their made in China T-shirts go for $25.
    BTW Prophets Of Rage, with all that killer talent, the music kinda sucks.
     
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  4. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. They don't hold a candle to Led Zep or The Fighters of the Fu, but they are aiiiiiight.
     
  5. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Back to the subject: Does Putin jam? Do the Rooskies even know how to rock? Prolly after enough shots of vodika they can do the boogie woogie. Maybe KidRock is a Russian spy. I know for a fact Ted Nugent is Bannon's life partner.
     
  6. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    never had sis surf dog pegged for a commie. he seems pegged alright. I'll assume its the Flor De Cana talking

    sad:(
     
  7. Donald J Trump

    Donald J Trump Well-Known Member

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    Aug 9, 2016
    Everything is going smoothly and I have nothing better to do this morning so I'm whining on Twitter.

    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
     
  8. Donald J Trump

    Donald J Trump Well-Known Member

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    Aug 9, 2016
    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

    Making witch hunts great again.

    Bigly.
     
  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    i wonder why it is ok for Obama to share intel with the Russia and not Trump?
     
  10. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    My only issue with invoking the 25th amendment is that a man who believes you can "pray away the gay" would then be POTUS.

    What does the SI community think about the christian conservative social agenda of the DJT admin?
     
  11. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    So far i havent seen much of it. Pence is def a theocrat though
     
  12. Donald J Trump

    Donald J Trump Well-Known Member

    181
    Aug 9, 2016
    Anybody that voted for me voted for this douche bag too.

    Bigly.
     
  13. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I'm not saying what Tump did was so bad... But the "but Obama did it too" excuses are getting silly and it comes up a lot.
    Every time Trump does something "bad" and gets called out his (and his supporters) reactions are:
    First: it's fake news, never happened
    Second: He did it, but it was no big deal
    Third: But Obama did it and nobody cared.
     
  14. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Eh, look, the reality is that not much of what DJT & Co. have allegedly done is actually new in the annals of American political asspects. Ergo, the comparisons to Obama & others will not just go away. The reason is that there is validity in some if not all of the comparisons.

    These guys are all manipulative power players. The game they run demands they all have the same DNA. So, really, it's how thin does one want to slice it.

    DJT is getting pilloried by people from the ranks of professional pols, the lamestream media, the lobbyists, the financial sector & of course the liberals who want him gone. They don't have anything but garnering power, via unmitigated hatred for the guy, on their agenda. They don't want to listen, nor discuss, nor debate. They just plain hate. In that sense, this time it's different. They're utilizing anything they can from their toolboxes within their spheres of influence to achieve their goals. It is a shiiiiitshow, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
     
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  15. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    My Dad used to say about Nixon: He didn't do anything any other president didn't do, he just got caught.

    Nixon was a lot smarter than Trump. And he had to resign.
    I voted for Ronald, voted for Ford, but mostly I don't vote for fascists who give out corporate welfare checks. Bill Clinton balanced the budget and got impeached. I voted for him twice, but his wife was a terrible choice. The Dems are idiots.

    And if Pence becomes prez, the Dems will be wishing the Donald was still in office. So it's gonna be a laugh riot for the next four years, at least. Tent cities and prisons chock full of Americans.
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Opinion Wonder Land

    Let Trump Be Trump
    The president should cut out the middle men and be his own Messenger-in-Chief.


    By Daniel Henninger
    May 17, 2017 6:50 p.m. ET
    WSJ

    After the past two weeks, one must ask: How many parallel universes can the U.S. political system endure?

    Let us enumerate the celestial bodies traveling along independent orbits just now: Donald Trump, Sean Spicer, the Beltway press chorus, the White House’s Borgia factions, 2018’s at-risk congressional Republicans, the Schumer Democrats, the mosquito clouds of social media, and the various people working in what little exists so far of the Trump government.

    One more parallel universe deserves mention: the Trump vote, which decided the 2016 election. Oh, them.
    Wonder Land, May 17
    “Let Trump Be Trump,” by Dan Henninger.
    Wonder Land for May 17, 2017
    0:00 / 0:00

    The Trump vote sits out in the country watching the Washington spectacle of all things Comey, all things Russian, rumors of White House firings, and the president’s tweetstorms.

    Polls suggest most Trump voters aren’t much moved by these events. After surviving the 2016 election, the Trump voter remains fixed on achieving the Trump agenda—the economy, health care, taxes, education, America’s global standing, financial reform, immigration, infrastructure, trade. They are willing to put up with a lot, because they know that President Donald J. Trump is the only vessel they’ve got.

    Trump voters, however, should not underestimate the dangers of the current Washington circus. It isn’t a sideshow. It could pull down him and them.

    If Republicans running in 23 House districts carried by Hillary Clinton, or districts barely carried by Mr. Trump, distance themselves from the White-House mayhem, vote margins for the Trump legislative agenda will be at risk. Wednesday’s down stock market was a canary in that mineshaft.

    If Democrats win back the House in 2018, they will commence impeachment proceedings against Mr. Trump and his presidency will lose its ability to function for half its term.

    Something’s gotta give in Washington. It’s not going to be Donald Trump.

    The rumors of a White House shake-up include the suggestion that Mr. Trump may fire Sean Spicer, Reince Priebus, communications director Mike Dubke, counsel Don McGahn and consigliere Steve Bannon. What difference would that make?

    No conceivable chief of staff would sign on now without a commitment from the president of full control over White House operations and messaging. Donald Trump won’t cede that. He believes what he is doing is fine, as he’s said in multiple interviews. So let’s consider something completely different.

    There is a reality at the center of this matter that has to be faced: Donald Trump doesn’t like intermediaries. He abhors anything that gets between him and the public. The problem is not Sean Spicer’s performance as press secretary. The problem is positioning anything between Donald Trump’s mind and the outside world.

    When Mr. Trump says he is moving too fast and doing too much for any of his staff to keep up, we should take him at his word. He wants direct access. So, create a system that gives him exactly that.
     
  17. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    So, if I don't march in lockstep with Fox News and the Religious Right and the Alt Right, therefore I am a Commie. Sorry brah, my family owned grocery stores for generations, and orange groves, and I owned a publishing company for decades, so therefore I am a taxpaying Capitalist. A freedom loving American who has paid wages and health insurance for many employees, and sent a kid through college thru money i earned thru hard work. A Commie? Nigah please!
     
  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    The answer is to cut out the middlemen. Let Trump be Trump.

    Donald Trump should serve as his own press secretary and maybe his own chief of staff. I would even propose that the Trump presidency go live to the world, with a camera crew recording the president and his moment-to-moment thoughts in real time every day. President Trump as messenger in chief.

    A month ago, this proposal would have been read as satire. But it is now close to the manifest reality of the Trump White House.

    If Mr. Trump says or tweets something that causes a stir, such as pulling out of Nafta, let him talk to reporters on his terms to explain what he meant. If he changes his mind in minutes, hours or days, he can turn to the real-time camera and do it. But he takes responsibility for the Trump message.

    Mr. Trump managing the message flow himself won’t eliminate all the static, but it would remove the press spending days pounding intermediaries like Sean Spicer to produce answers the president hasn’t shared with his people or isn’t ready to share. If the Trump presidency is going to produce static on a scale of 1 to 100, why not live with his 50 rather than the current 90?

    Think of the Trump presidency as a Wikipedia entry, a project of constant updating, correction and revision. Once people get used to Donald Trump as a wiki, with him as the main editor, things might calm down. For Congress and the legislative agenda, midcourse corrections would become the daily routine, rather than media melodramas. The goal is relative stability.

    There are all sorts of objections to a real-time Trump. It won’t solve White House disorganization, but nothing is workable in this unique context. The old normal isn’t happening and never will.

    Discontinuity defines the Trump personality, and this won’t change. But if it’s all passing through him in real time, then corrections of facts, policy or intent can come earlier and reduce the current period of radioactive fallout.

    Let Trump be Trump, for as long as it lasts.
     
  19. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    He has only served 117 of 1460 days.

    Backsidehack, what do you think about the christian conservative social agenda of the DJT admin?
     
  20. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Question is,What did Trump do that was wrong?
    From Comey's sworn oath testimony 2 weeks ago presidents do and have the right to give opinions about FBI investigations but and I repeat but never has a president ever interfered in or ordered a stop into an FBI investigation for political reasons.
    The haters got nothing and are gonna keep on hating.
    The special prosecutor for Russian collusion. Awesome! Finally they'll put that myth to bed and get drunk off liberal tears.