Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?

as I do believe in global warming I do not believe in a solution.carbon tax just means people will have to pay for their pollution lol,which will never stop.driving Priuses is for phags I wouldn't drive one lol.a bunch of restrictions wont stop anything

my only solution would be to stop cutting down trees and developing in 3rd world countries.

 

Elon Musk can go suck a cawk!!
Elon Musk is an advocate for Carbon Taxes!
Kyle your willing to sell out American sovereignty for a profit on your stock?
You know what Kyle? You need to STFU! You're no better than the narcissistic water front property owner.
I.E. you don't give two sh!ts about the environment, all you care about is your own bottom line.
Sorry KR, I'm that guy.

 

Sell out American sovereignty ??? Really?? While Trump dances the jig with Saudi royalty? Put down the pom poms buddy, Musk wants to make a profit and if he didn't Chevy and Ford would have given two fvcks on electric or hybrids. At least it's an American company looking ahead. But what I really want is a Trump golf courses everywhere, that's the ticket for my kids future. You are that guy, agreed.

 

Never said I was against new green techs like electric cars and making a profit.
Only if Musk could make a profit.
But yeah he's a sell out.
Musk is a self-righteous billionaire pushing global warming propaganda on peasantry why he flies around in his private jet.
Tell me how Trump's a sell out.
Dancing with the Saudis? Really?

 

You're worried about Kyle selling out American sovereignty and you elected me President? Really? If only you could see my tax returns. Believe me folks. Everybody is saying it. That I can tell you.

Bigly. Covfefe. Drain the swamp. Lock her up. Pittsburgh not Paris. Grab 'em by the pussie. #MAGA.

 

Just the title of the article is enough to warrant no further reading.
Before the author begins to debate the oppositional data he already labels it pseudoscientific.
Far from unbiased.
Bill Moyers is also a member of the Bilderberg group.
You know, the group of the most powerful people in the world meeting in secret to plan the future of the world.

 

Hey I never claimed the climate wasn't changing.
I never denied that human activity is/or part of the cause.
But you post an op-ed from a left wing publication that is biased in the title of the article.
How do you know the facts?
Did you follow up and fact check every point made in the article?
No.

I'm not gonna debate the coming ice age, global warming, climate change.
Just the fact alone that it gone from all those scenarios in the last 40 years says alot about the scientific consensus.
They've got no clue wtf is going on and neither do you nor I.

All I know is Trump got us out of a Communistic Global Government system by pulling out of the Paris Accord, Global Green Fund, and TPP.

That's all I really care about at this point.

Any further debate is in vain and if you are concerned about pollution and the environment then do something yourself to make a difference.
Fuk off with the paid scientist, special interests, and politicians.
They're only going to take advantage of it.

 

I think 97% of scientists agree that climate change is real and caused by man made activity. Most Republicsn politicians also believe this. I side with science. Is modern science ever wrong? Yes, but rarely.

I have to ask skeptics here, is there anything at all that would convince you that it is real?

(And the skeptics here, are you also of the mind that you wouldn't vaccinate your children, because, you know, it's the secret cabal controlling the world that profits from Vaccines. And, you know, disease is natural and we should just let it take its course and weed out the weaker babies)

 

Betty I don't think anyone here denies the climate is changing.
Caused solely buy man?
Consensus doesn't equal science.

(And you climate alarmists here, are you of the mind to put pink vag hats on your head and go to a march against Trump led buy a Muslim woman who wants Sharia, and a slutty saggy bag who wants to blow up the White House?)

 

Of those 97%, 95% were scientists receiving National Science Foundation grants. The NSF is as large an agency as its sister agency, NIH. The NSF is a government agency and is run by political appointees. If a scientists submits a grant proposal to demonstrate "climate change", their grant request is approved. If a scientist submits a grant request for the opposite, they are 100% denied the money. No grants in the last 8 years were given to those with your "denier" classification. None. Not one. Zero.
97% of scientist were 100% convinced that the Earth was flat. There were a few that thought otherwise. They were tortured, jailed, and executed. Galileo is an example of that. Fortunately he was not executed, but that only because he was related to the Pope.
97% of medical practioners were 100% sure that humans contracted disease from "miasmas" that lurked within fogs near marshes, bogs and forests. It took bacteriology (Robert Koch, Pasteur) decades of work to show them wrong.

The evidence for "global warming" is poor. It is solely observational in nature. The "control" group of the studies, ware piss poor. And that is if they even have any controls. The reason for that is simple--how can you take data and not have a comparative group when PLANETS are the study subjects?? Do you line up 200 planets with Industrial revolution vs 200 planets with no industrial revolution?? Show us how to do that. Their statistical analysis cannot then, arrive a a significant "P" value--95% or better, in other words, without that one cannot eliminate chance findings, or, in other words.....the study is garbage.

Now, a word about being a "steward". The Earth is 4 1/2 billion years old--our "order" of primates has been here 200,000 years. By what measure of logic can we now say that we are the "stewards" of the planet. Only by one of the Seven Sins-- Pride. We are not the Crown of Creation. The Earth did NOT anticipate our coming, it does not know we are here, and it doesn't give a crap if we are snuffed out, which we will be as our species reaches its longevity point (paleontologists tell us most species last about 1 million years on average; so we have 800,000 years to go). We are but ONE of millions of species that have passed through here; we are the stewards of nothing. You will not stop volcanoes, tectonic plates, or meteors smacking into Earth. You can, however, keep your surroundings clean for beauty sake and clean living, sure. But "steward"?? Let us all stop being ridiculous in Pride.
One more note--even the most radical and extreme "computer models" (which accounts for most of these "studies"), have results far far less hot than previous Eras, and geologic periods. The large dinosaurs etc in both Jurassic and Cretaceous times had much hotter temps, as well as millions of other organisms and species.

We all need to give Al Gore and his band political hacks the middle finger every time he shows his face. They said Manhattan was to be underwater by 2012. It is bone dry.

Enough of this BS. Pride?? You want to be proud?? Go join a gay parade somewhere, but let's all cut this "sh1t" out. It is a waste of time.

Good night every one!!

Oh and Betty, my remarks above are NOT directed at you, but to all on the forumme

 

Sell out American sovereignty? I offered no opinion on the Paris Accord either way. It is a non binding agreement, not approved by Congress. So it is basically only worth the paper it's printed on. No more, no less. I only joined this discussion to point out your flawed "CO2=more food" logic.

But I must admit, your rebuttal above has really made me reconsider my position. I had no idea Elon is a cawk. That is an indisputable fact that I must have missed due to my liberal indoctrination. Thank goodness you enlightened before I embarrassed myself.

Come on Archy, if your arguments get reduced down to responses like that, you're losing your edge. I'll admit, you do have an extensive knowledge of anti-left buzzwords and phrases; but, your arguments tend to fall apart rather quickly and responses from you, like the one above, only feed this narrative.