Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by sisurfdogg, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Slob scapegoat like Gore. Hahaha.
    Such a scapegoat raking in billions of the scam.
    Fuk I shoulds gone to college for a degree in scapegoating.
     
  2. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    That's why all those losers with no jobs are rioting against Hillary.
    Doh.
     

  3. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012

    Dude, the money is saying that global warming is fake and getting paid by the energy to say it. The exact same tactics the tobacco industry used are being played out by the energy sector. BTW, my brother inlaw is a climate scientist and makes like 80k. I will make sure to let him know he is supposed to be rich. Too funny.
     
  4. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

    706
    Aug 26, 2008
    not sure what you're getting at. I didn't say climate researchers should be rich, i said there is a lot of grant money out there supporting the research, and therefore drives the direction of the science. Ask your brother in law how many charitable trusts and university's are funding research in mainstream climate change impacts vs. research in non-mainstream areas. Its supporting a lot of people making 80K.
     
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  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    So let me get this right. The government subsidizes oil and gas, they go to war over oil, yet they pay scientists to say global warming's real and we have to give up oil and gas.
    Either i'm confused or you don't know what your talking about.
     
  6. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    Fair enough, I see you point. See archy a good point and not a single meme or YouTube video
     
  7. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    Huh?? The oil industry pays them to say it is fake. Follow the money, if someone from a science background says cc is fake they will have ties to energy.
     
  8. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    BTW, we have never gone to war over oil, wmds and spreading freedom, get it right. Lol
     
  9. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Why don't you ask your butt buddy Musk for his hot tip? That one s/b obvious.
     
  10. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

    706
    Aug 26, 2008
    ??? So when some people are in it for the money its just a good story for suckers like Archy, but when others are in it for the money you can draw conclusions???

     
  11. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Rex Tillerson
     
  12. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    I guess its flat on the east coast this weekend?
     
  13. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    lol Today was, yah

    Saturday morning was fun at TPTSNBN
     
  14. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Yeah I got surf today too.

    So I've learned a couple of things during these 16 pages, some of which have been somewhat informational while the rest has been typical SI swine fare:

    1) very few if any (myself included) have read what is actually *in* the Paris agreement, but have come out guns a blazing with little regard to actual facts. At least I attempted to tread lightly on the subject and not choose sides.

    I will take the time to try and find a non-partisan source to study the Accord. I recommend everybody who hasn't yet done so to follow suit.

    2) this thread was started with a simple question about CC, and to attempt to not stray into making it a political discussion.

    Yeah that lasted for a page or 2. I wish Vegas made book on this board, I'd be as wealthy as Musk or Trump.

    I'll be reading up to make more informed decisions.

    Carry on buoys
     
  15. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Hogwash. From a scientific point of view, NASA s outer space probes have given us fantastic information, Hubble telescope and follow up are still giving us amazing data. Putting men in outer space is a waste of time, and a huge waste of money. My only hope is to live long enough to watch that stupid space station come crashing down on Putins head.
    Once again, if putting humans in space is the goal, that is again..pride-waste of time , money and resources.
    So, to refute your "opinion", facts are that the last 40 years have yielded a lot for us.
    Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming......
     
  16. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    What is in the Accord is irrelevant--it is based on:
    1) False science (politically motivated), bad methodology, one sided only.
    2) An attempt to give other countries money in exchange for loyalty. Fvck the other 190 signatees; they just want their portion of the bribe to pave new roads and pay for the Syrians (muslims) they are importing. It is a giant scam by globalists, nothing more, based on bad science. Never forget, the original Obamacare guy (Gruber of MIT) stated scamming Americans is easy because of their stupidity (witness fungus, etc). You will buy into anything even with paltry data. This is a similar scam. Resist it at all costs.
     
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  17. ibc

    ibc Well-Known Member

    Aug 3, 2014
    I'm normally a pretty peaceful dude, but sometimes...

    Hey, Buttmunch! :mad:

    There's lots of people ready, willing, and able to go bust their ASS in the kind of jobs that get things done. They can't do it because the jobs left town. They AIN'T lazy.

    I ain't against college. Just not for everyone. We've already gone through how a person can have quite a successful life without it.

    George Carlin was right in that video.

    Do you stick yer pinky up in the air when you drink yer triple mocha foo foo latte?

    LAZY, my ASS!!!

    Now go pet a bunny.
     
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  18. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Terrible comparison...If you think Elon Musk is the new Kenny Lay then we are too far apart to really agree on anything...
     
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  19. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Your rebuttal, once again, has no facts, all opinion, and some cheap shot insults. I don't think your argument holds any water if that's all you got.

    If you believe I don't know what I am talking about, why not use facts to point out my ignorance? You know, like I do to your arguments. Saying someone doesn't understand and insulting them personally really doesn't help what little credibility you have at this point.
     
  20. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Once again, all opinion. If Elon hasn't been "kicking in" where is the money going from the Tesla's he has already sold? Or the cash from the 450,000 Model 3 presales? That money just disappeared?

    I am only pointing out that Elon is no different that most major corporations when it comes to subsidies. Like I have said numerous times before, either NO ONE gets subsidized or everyone does. You cannot pick and choose.
    I am not deflecting the argument, I just wonder why you guys only harp on Elon. Why not chastise Shell, GE, Lockheed Martin, etc.

    As far as SpaceX, like I said he is taking govt contracts and I guess now that is a bad thing too....He isn't taking subsidies, there is a difference. If you have a problem with government contracts then you have a long list of people to be pissed at before Elon. The Military Industrial complex has been raking int hat cash for years.

    I am not sure why you guys take everything so personal. Why am I an idiot because you run your mouth but won't back it up with your money. You speak so absolute about knowing TSLA future but if you are so sure, why not capitalize on it??? Who is the idiot...the one that has invested in a company and made money 10x on initial investment or the guy who swears he know what is gonna happen next but is afraid to capitalize on it monetarily??? Just saying....