Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by sisurfdogg, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    He's a moron, that's my point.
     
  2. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013

  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    They will never take over the world. That is just not going to happen... killing 5 here and 10 there (9/11 excluded)is awful but you're not taking over the world like that...
    going after them with our military is great and I'd be happy to exterminate every last one, but it's not how it is solved... that is how you make it continue and help them recruit.
    The real way to end it is to get out of that hell hole and let them kill each other.
    Obama killed more muslims then any other pres and it got no better
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Agree to disagree. I don't see it that way.
     
  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    He's got a rubber face. That's my point.
     
  6. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    the ISIS goal is a global caliphate as stated
    they are getting their funding from somewhere, where? where did all their Toyota trucks come from months ago? this is important if you want to discern whether this group is capable of working towards the global caliphate goal. where do they get their money?


    countries like England and France letting the 3rd world refugees in (which camouflages ISIS infiltrators) and including them in social safety nets will be fvcked and ISIS will have the greatest influence in countries like this


    Poland, Hungary, and others with little to no social welfare dont have a refugee problem.
     
  7. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Germany was a sovereign nation taking over other sovereign nations. They were taking over Western Europe. Hitler would have controlled Europe for god knows how long had he not broken the German-Russian Nonaggression Pact. Germany also had some of the most highly developed weapons on the fave of the planet. Germany was exterminating Jews in mass numbers, in their home country.

    ISIS has not conquered anything other non-third world sh*tholes. I would not consider Iraq and Afghanistan as difficult to conquer as Western Europe. When ISIS takes down a democratic government, I will take your analogy into consideration.

    How do we defeat them? To me, it is obvious. Take the blood out of the snake. Stop buying foreign oil and move this country towards getting off of oil completely. If the US showed the world it can be done, I think a lot of the organized, industrial world would move in that direction. If the US, China, and Western Europe got off of oil, the price would plummet and those Saudi vaults filled with cash to fund this crap would evaporate. Just an idea. Bombing their countries and propping up a government has not worked for the past 50 years, so gotta try something different, no?
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Lol Agreed, I was thinking he looks like Glenn Quagmire. Giggidy.
     
  9. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Pay attention to TSLA Yankee...made another 2% gain today!
     
  10. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    So do you send back Muslims that have been here for multiple generations with no history of violence? They have 1st Amendment rights, no?

    I wonder how your process for getting them all out would work? Sounds a lot like a religious cleansing, somewhat similar to the gestapo of 1930's Germany?
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I understand what you mean regarding Nazi Germany being a sovereign nation vs. ISIS, but if you think about it, they believe they are part of their own sovereign nation, known as the Islamic State, only difference is their nation is the entire world in their mind, and we're on their land. So they kill. It's actually more than just ISIS that has to be defeated btw, that's only a part of the puzzle. It's all terrorists organizations and countries who support them financially or otherwise. Iran being at the top of the list.

    I don't agree that getting off oil all together is the answer. It would be nice but doesn't seem realistic at the moment. Besides, that won't stop them from hating our culture and wanting to kill us and doing anything they can to do so. And it's easy for them because people have gotten too tolerant and the courts have become liberalized.
     
  12. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Do you guys not care about the 1st Amendment? You can't throw people out their religious beliefs, plain and simple.

    Some of this stuff is bordering on hate speech.
     
  13. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    The Saudis actually support isis more than iran
     
  14. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    Afghanistan, historically is the most difficult region on earth to keep under control, if ISIS can do it and we cant, that says something

    please read a history book
     
  15. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    ...hate speech because he is describing the Islam belief structure?
     
  16. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
  17. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    But Germany had the will, man power and technology to do it. So far, radical islam only has the will. Long way to go before the man power and technology is there. And we will never allow that.

    Just because you don't see it as realistic, doesn't mean it isn't possible. Your reasoning is based on economics, not the plan itself. As renewables become more economically viable, this plan only makes more sense in my eyes.

    You're right, it won't stop them from hating us or our culture. However, it is pretty common knowledge you can't win a war without cash....and lots of it. We take a big chunk out of OPEC's demand, I bet you see a lot of arabic kings hoarding their cash to save power instead of dishing it out to terrorists groups. Maybe I'm wrong, I just don't think the bombing/propping of govt's is should continue. Talk about a waste of taxpayer dollars.
     
  18. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Because he is assuming all muslims interpret the Quran as he has laid out. he is essentially painting the picture that a belief in Islam is a belief in killing. I think that is a dangerous leap to make.

    Hate speech may have been to strong a choice of words. But dangerous speech, I do believe it is. Consider the previous statement retracted.
     
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  19. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    It's hard to control because of terrain. It is still a third world sh*thole that no one cares about except Muslims. Big difference in taking over an industrialized sovereign nation with an army versus a sand trap....but thanks for the history lesson.

    Like I said before, when ISIS takes over a modern democratic sovereign nation, then you will have a comparison.

    BTW ISIS rules Afghanistan via fear. Unless you are willing to cut the head's off of those that don't bow to you, then it will be hard to control that country....
     
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  20. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    Yankee spares no ones feelings, and while he might paint with a broad brush, it is the rare Imam who preaches peace