"I like DJT because he seems like a real down to earth, regular guy" - DPSUP

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  1. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Yet recall the litany of Rep. Adam Schiff, who declared in a House Intelligence Committee hearing: “Is it possible that all of these events and reports are completely unrelated and nothing more than an entirely unhappy coincidence?”

    His litany actually consisted of innocuous, incidental and routine Trump associations interspersed with claims from the Trump dossier to make the innocuous, incidental and routine seem nefarious.

    Maybe Mr. Schiff is a cynic, or maybe Harvard Law sent him back into the world with the same skull full of mush with which he arrived. But ever since, every faulty or incomplete recollection of a meeting with a Russian has been promoted in the media as proof of treason by Trump associates.

    The president’s obvious irritation with being called a traitor is proof that he is a traitor.

    Whether the Russia incubus did more harm to Mr. Trump’s vote or Hillary’s vote during the election is impossible to know. But Mr. Trump won, so under the hindsight fallacy his victory is now proof that he conspired with Russia.

    The term “availability bias” originated in the work of Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, whose Nobel Prize-winning research gave birth to the field of behavioral economics.

    Mr. Kahneman went on to write 2011’s indispensable “Thinking, Fast and Slow,” and I’m here to tell you that journalists especially pride themselves on their fast thinking—the kind that mistakes randomness for pattern, confuses correlation with causation, and gives excessive rein to emotional and cognitive biases.
    Notice I don’t say reporters and editors are so dumb they can’t free themselves from such errors. I say that such errors are their stock in trade.

    The original allegory of fast thinking, of course, is the old folklore tale, “the emperor’s new clothes.” In his 1922 book “Public Opinion,” Walter Lippmann explained how journalists reduce complex, novel realities to off-the-shelf “stereotypes.”

    Or as a colleague once said of Stalin, “[He] tries to force life into a ready-made framework. The more life resists . . . the more forcefully he mangles and breaks it.”

    Come to think of it, that’s not a bad way of describing how the D.C. anthill has reacted to the unexpected, exotic, high-risk, possibly providential experiment of the Trump presidency.

    We mean every descriptor. His very unsuitability, the mood of the American public that elected him, the obscure impasse of American politics that brought him to power—all these signs deserve more respect than they’re getting.

    His Torquemadas don’t and can’t know whether our democracy, in the improbable Mr. Trump, found a lever to move us forward, but there’s something repugnant in their desire not to find out.
     
  2. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    i donno man the only business hes run that hasn't completely run into the ground seems to be whatever one that produces the spray on tan he uses, and thats definitely because hes keepin it afloat by being its best customer.

    seriously tho dude the guy looks pretty good for 71 in a michael jacksony plastic surgery kinda way
     

  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Like a giant Umpa Lumpa? :rolleyes:
     
  4. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    yeaaah dude. i mean hes my commander and chief and crap but jeeze hes a weird looking dude.

    if he doesnt start ww3,
    i still get to keep my job (unlikely due to budget cuts, good luck when the westcoast blows up with wildfires and you cut all the emergency responders like he did)
    and he doesnt f uck with states rights like he seems to want to be doing with his advisors new battle cry for the continuation of war on drugs

    then ill conceed i kinda like the guy,

    until then i just think hes the funniest thing on tv ive seen in a long time

    either way everything is f u cked and people need to stop pretedning a big spray tanned fool will save us, just like everybody thought Obama would. Babylon will burn and unless you have some degree of self sufficiency out of a major metro area your probably not gonna enjoy the fall once mother nature gets all pissy. Personally i plan on having a good time on the way down.
     
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  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    He's definitely made politics more interesting. More people are engaged than ever before, at least that I can recall in my 36 years. I like the guy, he's a real guy with real faults and isn't afraid to be himself. He's comfortable in his own skin. Hard to not admire that quality at least. He'll do the right thing don't you worry.
     
  6. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    There's a difference between using twitter to get your message out in your own words and using twitter to say dumb sh!t that should not be said publicly (and then blaming MSM for reporting on the dumb sh!t you say).

    The president does both
     
  7. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    im not worried, the more sh it burns the more money i make. Also if society cracks i can recede into the depths of the PNW, raid blanks from socal, shape boards for the rest of my (probably short 10 years or less) life and finally charge down all the massive hills on 101 with my skateboard because there wont be any traffic coming at me.

    the state of jefferson will be fine
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    At least you have a plan. Go out in a blaze of glory!
     
  9. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Gotta imagine fire season is pretty slow so far
     
  10. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I don't know about the most successful President ever but I do agree it's a witch hunt where he has to constantly defend himself. Liberals have taking over the technology industry, MSM, Hollywood and Education. It's time to fight dirty especially since the MSM and democratic party are causing enough hate to inspire assassinations.

    Both democrats and republicans admit after almost 1 year of investigations, they have found no collusion. Polls even on the MSM have asked them to drop the Russia collusion investigation because no on believes it. I've said it from the beginning that this is a political smear campaign to help retain seats in the 2018 election. They will drag out a false narrative with the MSM help. The MSM is just another arm of the democratic party.

    The best thing I saw was the CNN poll asking if people believe trump obstructed justice. 70% said no on a CNN poll. That has to sting and now CNN is deflecting. Also, the recent election have repubs at 5-0. People are getting tired of victims groups and the bs the democrats are spewing. NOYA!
     
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  11. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    do you have any links to these polls? i ask because the polls i've seen say the opposite. thanks.
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It doesn't matter what polls say. Hasn't anybody learned that lesson yet? They are wrong. I have never taken or participated in a poll aside from the one on SI and ironically it was spot on lol I'm just one voter, I imagine there's tons of other voters like me, who have never participated in a poll. So how can they be too sure? They can't.
     
  13. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

    322
    Dec 14, 2016
    so polls don't matter to you. fine. they do matter to some people. like djt when he tweeted about only half the country disapproving of him: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875732813278048256 (it's more like 60% but whatevs). they matter to bennysgohome or he wouldn't have posted about it. just asking for some links.

    btw, the si poll was not spot on. if it was he would have lost by three million votes.
     
  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    They don't matter, and I would tell Trump the same thing, although i'm sure he knows that. He's going to use them in his favor when he can and criticize them when they're unfavorable. He's fighting an uphill battle on public perception right now due to the constant attacks. Plus, he's a salesman, as is every President. It's one of those things that really do not matter, it's a farce. Every now and then they might come close to reality but more often than not it's not accurate or honest.

    The SI poll was spot on. You can't hang your hat on a popular vote when that's not how Presidents are elected.
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    But the SI poll is a popular vote. So it actually wasn't accurate... But it may be accurate. You'd have to look at everyone that voted and where they live.
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    By accurate, I mean it predicted the winner. It would be cool if it could be setup to calculate like the electoral college.
     
  17. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    oh geeze, what was i thinking? you're never wrong as always. polls don't matter. they are completely useless in gauging people's opinions and perceptions. stupid industry. i don't even know why it exists. you showed me.
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    You said it, not me.
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Well, shreddy baby--they did predict that Hillary was going to win overwhelmingly. And who, pray tell, is presently El Pesidente??? Clue--it is not La Presidenta!!!
    So much for polls.
    Also, yesterday CNN reported polls that the Dems would win in Georgia. NOT!!!! NOT!!!!! NOT!!!!!!
     
  20. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Talk American you dirty Mexican