The Punk Rock Thread

Joining all the other naked homeless for a butt wrestling party??

 

Going strong??

More like smell strong......

 

For cjswee...

 

#docking

 

Haha just the vocals. Funny story. My friend Walter Schreifels (from Quicksand, Gorilla Biscuits, Youth Of Today, a bunch of other bands, etc) told me right after the first Quicksand EP came out that a few of his relatives and some friends told him his voice sounded like Bon Jovi on those songs. This was right after it was released when we had this conversation. He had just started singing months before that was recorded and his voice was real raw. I remember bringing it up to him later and he denied ever saying that! I think he was just embarrassed!

Clove Smoke Catharsis is a pretty good song by AFI.

 

Hardcore is basically Punk, no big deal. Although not all Punk is Hardcore. Like I wouldn't call The Clash or Stiff Little Fingers or bands like that Hardcore. I remember back in the early 80's when Dead Kennedys and Discharge were more referred to as Hardcore, but most people just call them Punk bands today.

I haven't heard a Madball album in a while. None of their newer stuff. I've seen them fairly recently, too, but I can't remember hearing any of their new stuff. I remember seeing them when Freddy was a younger teenager back in 89. And he was 4-5 years younger than me, so it was kind of weird to see. And the original Madball lineup was mostly Agnostic Front's then-lineup, only with Roger Miret on bass and not vocals (that's Freddy's older brother) and Vinnie Stigma on guitar. And Vinnie was already in his mid-30's by then and probably 20 years older than Freddy.

I think a guy I used to play with is either the permanent guitarist now for Madball or was just a fill-in for tour. Their longtime guitarist left last year. Not sure if they just had several fill-ins or if this guy I used to play with permanently joined. A quick look up of their lineup doesn't have any guitar player listed.

I haven't heard 25 Ta Life in like a long time. I remember someone jumped Rick Ta Life after a show and beat the fuck out of him. He was always really incoherent, but maybe this was part of a gimmick or a shtick. I never really knew him.

 

The Clash started to lose me around London Calling, but it's still a solid album. I like the first two a lot more though. Don't like any of their stuff after London Calling, but if we're just counting their first 2 albums and most of London Calling, they're my favorite band of the era. I like them a lot more than the Sex Pistols, but the Sex Pistols weren't around long enough to make shitty albums. So the first 3 Clash albums are better than Never Mind The Bollocks for me, but I'll take Never Mind The Bollocks over anything the Clash did after the 70's. Bodies, EMI, Pretty Vacant, Holiday In The Sun are my favorites by them.

I don't agree with anything after 1990 being MTV/Emo garbage, I loved plenty of Punk bands in the 90's, but I have to admit that I don't really get into newer Punk or Hardcore bands or much from the late 90's onward. But I still listen to the old stuff daily. Not to mention that a lot of the bands you've mentioned in this thread were still making music and putting out albums after 1990. Bad Brains, Cro Mags, Fugazi. Hell, Agnostic Front put out a bunch of albums in the 2000's and I think Slapshot just put out a new album this year?

Come on, dude. I don't think anybody likes Green Day or Blink 182 here. Green Day weren't a terrible band early on, but I never cared for them, either. And I don't think DP lives in a redneck area.

 

By the way, the first stuff that was called Emo was back in the mid-80's and it was pretty much Hardcore music. Rites Of Spring (Guy and Brendan from Fugazi's first band), Embrace (Ian Mackaye's band between Minor Threat and Fugazi) were called Emo back when this phrase was first coined. It was good music, it still is good music. The term Emo has been bastardized even more than Punk has. Some of the stuff that's called Emo now is about as embarrassing as when Good Charlotte was being called a Punk band.

 

I was born in 89, so my first taste of punk, which is probably unfortunate in most of the older heads eyes, was green day. Album was Dookie. Absolutely loved and still do love that album. smoothed out slappy hours was also pretty good. I don't know where the fvck that green day went... but, she gone.

 

I liked most of those bands in the 90's. I still like some of them. Don't like NOFX, mostly because Fat Mike's voice is annoying ASF and he's also a pretty big douchebag, but a lot of musicians I listen to are, so I try not to let that ruin it for me, but his voice is a dealbreaker. I had a lot of stuff from Guttermouth, Pennywise, Vandals, Bad Religion, Rancid, Bouncing Souls and Good Riddance from the 90's. I think I have an Avail album or two from the 90's. The Offspring were even really good until after Smash. I used to get a lot of stuff from Epitaph back in the 90's. I had a steady girlfriend, was in my 20's and wasn't really as active going to shows every weekend anymore, but I still got into newer bands that way and would get samplers and then full albums from the Epitaph catalogs. I also stayed loyal to bands that my friends were doing like Quicksand, Shelter and Civ, who all got signed to major labels and some MTV airplay and radio airtime. I still checked out Sick Of It All's stuff they were putting out back then. Also loved a lot of the melodic stuff from the 90's, which sometimes was still referred to as Hardcore and other times Post-Hardcore. Stuff that Revelation Records was putting out, but they went downhill by the late 90's.

 

Jesus, I graduated high school in 89!

You know what, dude? If you got into Punk music from listening to Green Day or even Good Charlotte (for people really young), I don't think that's a bad thing. If that's your gateway into Punk music, that's really the best thing those bands could have done. And I really think Good Charlotte is an awful, terrible, ridiculously garbage band, but if that was your gateway to real Punk music, that's not a bad thing or anything to be ashamed of.

Before I was listening to Punk music, I liked frickin Duran Duran and a bunch of New Wave crap. Echo & The Bunnymen, Modern English (I'll fight anyone who disagrees that Melt With You isn't a great song), stuff like that. And back then, a lot of people got into Punk because of The Clash (Combat Rock came out about a year before I got into Punk) or The Ramones, because they were played on the radio and shown on MTV. I'm 47 and a lot of the original Punk heads (who are like 15 or more years older than me) probably eschew anything made after 1980 (let alone 1990) and would probably laugh at me for being 6 years old when all those cool records in 1977 were coming out and listening to bands like Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Rush, etc, back in 1980. Not that there's anything wrong with those bands, either!

 

Too bad they never sold as many albums as Bon Jovi! Lol

 

I can do ya one worse... Prior to finding punk I was listening to back street bouys, NSYNC, Moriah Carry, and Micheal Jackson... I mean it was bad...

 

Well said, more friendly than my response. lol

Although, he’s not totally wrong, there are plenty of rednecks around here but I’m far from being one of them. Most of my neighbors aren’t either, but drive around and they are out and about. Mostly contractor types hahaha

 

Oh boy, don’t say that out loud lol

 

There’s a ton of other bands too. If you include all of the ska punk / skacore bands like the Suicide Machines, the list gets longer. Everybody I saw at the regular punk shows was at the Suicide Machines or Less Than Jake shows. I’m fact they would play together with a lot of the same bands. To me it’s just different variations of punk, or else it all begins to sound the same. The point was to be different, or so I thought.

 

Early on it was Sex Pistols and GBH from across the pond. Then Ramones, Husker Du, et. al.

Later it was more the Ska Punk stuff... Rancid, Mighty Mighty Bosstones...

There doesn't seem to be a lot of Husker Du fans on here, but I'd say they had perhaps the biggest influence on punk moving forward from the mid '80s. Their first record, Land Speed Record, was by far the most abrasive and aggressive sound... which got my attention at the time. But then their sound changed, and in a lot of ways, improved. New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig were, IMO, damn near perfect records ('85 and '86).

That's when punk music really started to change, particularly in California... and I'd argue they were all influenced by Husker Du, to one degree or another... moving from the late '80s into the '90s. By then, the original California punk bands were gone (Black Flag, Dead Kennedys...) and the new "surf punk" and "skate punk" bands started to become popular... Agent Orange, Guttermouth, Face to Face... Where did these California Surf Punk bands get their sound? From an underground punk band from the Twin Cities... Husker Du.

 

My first exposure to Punk was Sex Pistols, Ramones, and The Exploited. I didn’t get addicted to Punk until Operation Ivy, then I just consumed every bit of punk music I could get my hands on. Some good, some not so good. I believe in being open minded to it all and then weeding it out as you listen to them. Shopping cart method.

 

Anybody ever listen to Authority Zero? Was pretty into them for a period of time.

 

Not much but I did listen to Against All Authority or AAA for a while, they were insane!