Leashe pulling

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locals get respect for the simple reason that they have to put up with visitor crap every single day.

 

I agree to a point with all of that and well said without being disrespectful of others opinions here.
My viewpoint gets diluted because I hate bullies of any kind - be it the bully who takes your lunch and sucker punches you to the performance bullies who assume that since they are superior at something, You should just fuck off cause you suck. Unless I’m mistaken, no one comes out of the womb riding a carbon Merrick so we were “all equal before the wave” at one point. BUT, I will say I DO get the rules aligned here because if you take away the coxkblockery, they make total sense, maintain safety and ensure that you give respect where it is deserved. The one thing I always wondered about was how the natural selection thing didn’t keep this from even becoming an issue... if I know I’m not good enough to surf a spot without getting hurt or messing up others who ARE, I don’t surf that spot or if I do it’s only with someone familiar or “local”
Anyway. I guess that’s just me though because it seems it’s a relevant issue with other surfers.

 

I get that too

 

people got entitled and thought they could go out where ever and started calling the cops when hassled.

 

Yup. It’s all part of that word “entitled”. Respect goes out the window. But also any self respect.
If I fuck up, I take the hit, period. I won’t ever ask someone else to do it for me... how does a person respect themselves after they do?

But Pump, it can also be determined by how the hassling is done too... figuratively, if one guy tells me to go to hell, I punch him in the mouth. But if the same guy tells me to go to hell the right way? I go home and start packing. I know it’s not as knuckle draggy caveman like my thought process, but I really feel most people have forgotten how to communicate.

 

Leashe pulling:

I'm a pretty mellow guy- so havnt done this much except between friends,.. joking around etc but never on good waves....

I do remember one instance back when I lived and surfed in bradley beach... there was a guy who was like your typical summer pro... the guy just shows up and totally disrespectful to everyone specially all the locals- his old trick was that he would sit right near you but just slightly inside and you would be in position to get the next wave. But like clock work- once the wave showed up he would snake you by paddling over right in front of you or slightly to the other side so he would have priority. EVERYONE had it with this guy- and I'm pretty sure ppl even asked him to stop... well a good wave came and I think I accidentally caught his leash... then thought at the last moment- I might as well pull him out of this wave... I still remember the dumbfounded look on his face. He didn't say anything. Calmed down a bit- and didn't show up much after that...

 

And a funny thought just hit me about leashe pulling. I was helping a middle aged lady who was in the whitewater, who happened to have really nice appendages lol, and was giving her a push to get her rolling... and then caught her 10’ Leash by accident as she got up and started riding... man did I yank her right off the boart! She face planted! I felt like an total ass but she didnt seem to figure it out so I sure as shit wasn’t gonna say a word hahaha

 

ive seen situations in the water where a dude just wont get it. repeated dropins, ditching, paddle in front, ect. Lots of dudes gave polite talking to but the guys just refused to play by the rules. What's the remedy?

 

Hold them underwater till they stop moving?

 

Joel Tudor once said understanding our surfing culture and it's history... and the people who shaped our culture and history... and respecting all of what makes it up is what sets surfing apart form all other sports and subcultures.

You can distill that down to the culture of each and every local spot. That means respecting those who came before you, respecting the culture and vibe of the spot, and respecting those who show respect - it's a two way street.

 

Honestly, a non polite talking to would be next step - and if the message wasn’t taken, as is often said here lol, shit gets tossed, and maybe he gets tossed. It’s gone beyond just being greedy about waves and disrespecto a safety and gear safety issue now... and he’s being a total dickhead on purpose so he deserves to be treated like a dickhead. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That scenario is tough for me to understand though because I’d never do it or even think it was ok.
Guess not everybody is as cool as me

Bahahahahhhh

 

Where have I heard this before?

 

Well, I can’t claim it’s mine, our Defensive Tactics instructor/firearms instructor loves to use it when describing the unfortunate resulting outcomes of many a stupid act.

 

You wouldn't be MichaelJR would you?

 

Not the same, sorry Bud.

 

My mistake. He said the same thing before and I remembered it for some stupid reason. I have one of those memories, it’s weird.

 

it's very popular on the AR15.com general discussion forum.

michael Jr prolly heard it there

 

This is right on. Although, there are instances (locations) where respect still lands you at the end of the line waiting.

Hierarchy is real at some spots...performance, “tenure”, or both may dictate your experience.

Leash pulling is great when timed properly. My favorite is when there is current or a rip and you and a buddy are trying to work hard to get to “the spot”, timing the buddy leash pull to get position on buddy and catching the set is classic. It needs to be deliberate and occasional for optimal results/reaction.

I wonder if Barry ever got his leash pulled!

 

I think it’s a movie line or something lol