Trump / FBI / Russians

Yea, yank is back.

 

But Trump isn't the employer, that's the point. You complained extensively about Obama attacking the private sector, yet have no problem when Trump does the same. Encouraging his supporters to turn off the NFL is trying to hurt their bottom line. The government should not be is the PR business against the private sector unless there are laws being broken, in this case there are none.

As far as RR and the air traffic controllers. Aren't air traffic controllers employed by the FAA for the most part; therefore making them government employees? So Reagan was well within his rights to discipline or critique the agency and the controllers. NFL players are not employed by the fed whatsoever. Trump has no power over them at all. Let the free market be free...

 

NFL teams are American business that employ 1000s of Americans, not just players. The potus calling in the American public to boycott them is wrong in my opinion.
Again I don’t think the players should protest on their bosses dime. But I don’t think it’s the potus’s place to get involved.

 

Every owner feels that way. Not just the one Pakistani. Why do you single out him?
Do you honestly think that DJT doesn’t want revenge against the guys that said he wasn’t cool enough to hang out with them?

 

My 2 cents - It rubbed me the wrong way to see the President of the US calling for private companies (team owners) to fire employees over "respect" issues. I've always felt from a business standpoint the best government is the least government. Tear down beaurocratic obstacles that stand in the way of the private sector then get out of the way and don't try to micromanage private companies from the white house. Calling for private company firings over "respect" issues is, to me anyway, way more government that i want or need.

 

I "single out him" for what should be obvious. Number one, because it's his quote about Trump, number two, he has an agenda just like anyone does & more than most.

"Every owner feels that way." I haven't seen any other owners stating that Trump is jealous, only Khan's statement to that theory. I'm willing to read other quotes from other owners; can you provide those quotes to back up your opinion?

And it is just a theory, Khan's that is about Trump. Mine, too in re Khan. Some may be arrogant enough to say that they can read other people's minds, but I'm not at that level of clairvoyance.

The world we live in...

 

Just asking! I respect your opinion.

 

My wife, who is as liberal as it gets, hates Capernick and agrees 100% with President Trump on this issue. It's a disgrace, and the players who protest police brutality against minorities should have found a better way to protest than to crap on the American flag and the military who defend our freedoms in front of the entire country on national TV every weekend. Any president has the duty and moral obligation to speak out against this BS.

The players and the MFL need to get their house in order like the NBA has done. They are hustling backwards. And energizing Trump's base at the same time. Fucking Morons!

 

I dont think that is divisive at all. He is speaking from the POV of an NFL owner. Fire that dude, not just because he is being disrespectful but also he is a backup!!! A backup QB bringing attention to his winy self during a game that most people just want to enjoy with their friends and family on an easy Sunday. People watch a game to escape politics and everyday BS. And this no good BACKUP loser wants to kneel for attention. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Well-stated. I am also a huge subscriber to laissez faire. Unfortunately, our government is rapidly heading away from that approach with the private sector. And has been for many decades.

Just out of curiosity, would you categorize the government's near-takeover of the medical system in the USA as overstepping government boundaries into the private sector?

What about the ICC (govt regulation of commerce), or the FAA (govt regulation of private sector airlines) or the FDA (govt regulation of food & drug industries)...? All these, necessary, too much, too little?

Government involvement in the economy increased most significantly during the New Deal of the 1930s. The 1929 stock market crash had initiated the most serious economic dislocation in the nation's history, the Great Depression (1929-1940). President Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) launched the New Deal to alleviate the emergency.

Many of the most important laws and institutions that define American's modern economy can be traced to the New Deal era. New Deal legislation extended federal authority in banking, agriculture and public welfare. It established minimum standards for wages and hours on the job, and it served as a catalyst for the expansion of labor unions in such industries as steel, automobiles, and rubber.

Programs and agencies that today seem indispensable to the operation of the country's modern economy were created: the Securities and Exchange Commission, which regulates the stock market; the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which guarantees bank deposits; and, perhaps most notably, the Social Security system, which provides pensions to the elderly based on contributions they made when they were part of the work force.

Trump's actions are blarking (that's blaring & barking) but hardly out of line with the precedent of govt involvement with private sector business in this nation of ours, that's my point.

 

He wasn't referencing Kaepernick in that sound byte. He was referencing any other players that kneel, not just a back up QB. Kaepernick was out of the league and the new season already started without him when Trump said that.

 

That is the point, there is already too much government involvement in business (Trump has said this himself), why is he inserting the government (himself as our President) even more? Over something so arbitrary and inconsequential?

Also, notice all those things you list with too much oversight (ICC, FAA, SEC, FDIC) all involve things that are just a tad bit more important than football players kneeling....last I checked the players kneeling literally has zero effect on 99% of American daily lives, so why do we need the feds to insert themselves at all?

 

A: I nvr said that the feds s/b inserting themselves more or less.
And B: my point is that Trump reflects nothing new with his blarking in re the NFL; govt has been involved more & more with private sector over the past 80 or so years; see 'A.'

I did quite clearly state that I am a fan of laissez faire.

BTW, BLM would likely take issue with your statement about kneeling football players being not important, but that's another topic for another time.

 

Ok, it all started because of Kap. Needless to say Trump again was right and won the argument, I dont see any more kneeling.

 

I'm on the side of limited intrusion/involvement....I get that the public elects representatives to pass laws establishing some public safety role of government...which leads to things like food inspection and airline regulation etc. Rightly or wrongly, people expect some govt function aimed at public safety. It probably goes much too far...like regulating ticket prices to ensure competition or whatever.

As far as government takeover of medical system...i personally don't support it and don't think it will work, but i guess people have a right to vote in representatives who support such laws. I won't.

Trump's personally calling for private sector firings of employees over respect issues is, to me anyway, in some other category. Just out of left field and uncalled for.

 

I dont think this matter is inconsequential. It all depends on how you perceive what is going on with countrys around the world such as China. They are doing whatever they can to erode the American spirit, is it any coincident that Nike paid Kapernick for his duty to undermine America's flag?

 

A: Trump ran a campaign saying the government has been hurting businesses under Obama then turns around and goes out and attacks a private entity over the actions of a private citizen.
B: This is new, the government has never stepped in a told a private company to fire people over something so arbitrary and no laws broken. There is no precendent for that, the things you listed are oversight agencies over huge sectors (airlines, securities, banking). Never something as trivial as football players kneeling.

Players kneeling doesn't hurt our economy, our freedom or our sovereignty. It just hurts feelings. I didn't know the President was in the making everyone feel better business.

 

You implying the poor chinese sweat shop workers did it trying to undermine America? Phil Knight is the chariman and co-founder of Nike and a well noted Republican donor....dude just knows how to sell shoes

 

We are def in reruns now, maybe time to take a break until the mid terms

 

So what? A real republican or good descent person would not favor communist rule over others. Phil Knight is a scumbag.