does localism still exist

#invader
I phakin' love these lines, they hit really close to home
Full disclosure, that second paragraph gave me just a bit of a chub

 

I love surfing, I am a surfer but most surfers in general just befuddle me. Here's a scenerio for ya, let's say you live in the Blue Ridge mountains. You live by the best trail in the whole forest. You walk your dog every morning on that trail. No hiker in their right mind would claim rights to that trail because they hike it more than anyone else. That's retarded! Now if some jackass comes hauling down the trail on an ATV and it's against the rules then yeah say something to him but to set up a little fort and zing rocks at other hikers would be the gayest sh!t I've ever heard. That is the exact same thing. I despise surfing in crowds, I downright loathe summer now, SUP'ers are scum but to think that I'm entitled to a wave because I frequent an area is narcissism at it's finest. I just can't wrap my head around that mindset. I understand the frustration but that's life. You live or surf at a PUBLIC beach. Act like a civilized caveman.

 

Man has a good point.

Just one of those things that can't be explained.

Who knows how it works? It just does.

 

Pretty much this^^^^^^^

 

Hiking on a trail is not like surfing in the ocean in any way. Except they are both enjoyable. Sorry. Poor comparison to say the least. Surfing is competitive when guys don't wait their turn. At my beach nobody ever waits their turn. Walking my dog on a trail in the mountains?

 

Solid point.... but waiting turns don't apply unless your on a point break. If your surfing a beach break and your not in position and i am, well then it's my turn. Considering your name, i got to assume you surf beach breaks Haha

 

Exactly true. And thank you for understanding. Beachbreak. Competitive.

So if you or any unknown summer bro shows up like 'here i am!' And one of the boys is getting shutout, your big day at our beach will maybe take a turn. For the worse. Sometimes. And you will probably not be stoked anymore. And you probably will never come back. And you probably will choose any other 300 yard stretch of beach next time. And forever.

Just being honest answering op. I don't like it one bit. But it happens. Waves are limited here.

The guys who live here are all the break can handle. Unless it's a really good swell. And even still...

Plus the other regular non-locals we tolerate because they respect and pay their dues and know their place.

No one cares who you are or even less how good you surf. The end. Goodbye. Have a nice ride home.

Facts are facts. Op asked. I ain't proud.

 

Lol. Get a life bro.

 

Let me guess you surf bay head?

 

Wrong.

 

I'm not your brother, brother.

 

When was the last time a hiker was hurt by another hiker losing control of their hiking gear?

 

Not sure about localism but regulation definitely has a place. WTH is this 'wait your turn' stuff?

 

When I first lived on Oahu, I surfed A south shore point, which has some localism. When I paddled out, dude on peak with a half dozen of his bruddas calls me out.

He asked where I was from...never seen you here??? He pointed at all of his bros and said I can’t have a wave until each one of these guys catches one. I sat on shoulder and waited my turn...

I remember keeping a smile on my face but thinking I would pound that skinny little loud mouth lol!

 

Maybe mountain biking would be a better comparison.

 

That depends if the gear of the second hiker was actually the wife/GF of the first hiker, as they head up into the mountains to "hike".

 

Not a hiking trail exactly but maybe a better example is people who develop new rock climbing crags and routes. They put in work figuring out the route, cleaning cracks out, etc.. - they have actually created a new place to climb. Compare that to surfing - nobody was out moving around boulders at Pt Judith and pretty sure the USCG built the parking lot. So claims of 'deserve' are goofy. 'Family' claims doubly so outside of Hawaii.

Tuckerman's is probably the best analog to a prime surf spot- doesn't belong to anyone recreationally (like a club or ski area) yet gets so full that it can be harder to enjoy than if it was magically just 5 people out there on a perfect day. Sucks but that's life in a populated part of the country.

Move to Oregon if you want solo waves. Or get rich and move to a town with no public summer parking and then just walk to your local break.

 

Correct. Some people think they get a turn. Not here!

 

yeah, that's a very foreign subject to me

 

There's a difference between localism and regulation. Some folks are confusing the two. I have regulated a few morons in my life due to them being a safety hazard, asshole, or clueless idiot. This has to do with safety and self preservation and has nothing to do with localism.

Localism is when you are treated like scum just for showing up. There are varying degrees of enforcement of localism. JayD's experience is an example of localism, but sounds pretty mild since he still remained in the water and surfed, but after all the other bros got theirs.

Other places, like the video Bassmon posted, they will just run you out of the water all together. And the most extreme is when they actually physically attack you and your property.

To me localism for the sake of localism is stupid. But regulating a hazard is justified and warranted. People should differentiate the two.

Lastly, guys who can barely pop up or stand up anymore (no offense) should not be barking like they an enforcer. Believe me, nobody is worried about some guy who can barely make it to their feet. You won't be making anybody's day miserable because you most likely are getting out paddled and out surfed, so acting like the enforcer on here is really a pipe dream for you.