The Oppression Continues

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by grainofsand, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    since we are all WAF here, who is the real oppressor, the pro that gets 50 free boards a month, or the board builder who charges you $800 a board without fins?
     
  2. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    Wow dude, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that one. Kinda like the "chicken or the egg" thing.

    FWIW my shaper is charging $800 plus he's throwing in a set of his own self-foiled fins. Your question makes me feel like I'm stealing candy from the mouths of babies.
     

  3. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Neither.

    If a shaper can charge $800 and people are willing to pay, what's the problem? If you can't afford it, move on.

    If a brand thinks that by sending a pro free boards will have a good ROI, that's on them.

    Who the f*** even cares?

    You sound like a teenage girl who is upset her parents won't buy her expensive makeup, "I HATE my parents but I think I hate the makeup company more because they give free stuff to Kim K and not ME!"
     
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  4. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    If I need/ want a board I buy one.
    As far as saving the planet ... No way. i dont think we make a dif. Yeah it feels good to pick up trash and buy locally grown food and do the best we can but were all different dudes. Nothing more nothing less...do your thing
     
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  5. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

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    May 19, 2006
    How is the Pro, an oppressor? The Pro is just taking advantage of the ROI calculations that the board builder ran. If it makes sense for the builder, they will do it. The Pro is just the conduit through which we see those boards.

    Indy shapers charge what the market will bear. That's how this free market sh!t works. Yeah, they could probably still make decent coin selling them for $500, but then they would have more orders, a longer backlog and more impatient and irritated customers. Raising the price reduces the backlog to a manageable list of buyers that want their wares so bad they are willing to pay a premium for them.
     
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  6. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    ^good stuff, keep it rolling
     
  7. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    OK - you're broke, and jealous of people who can afford brand name gear. You also seem to have some sort of oppression fetish where you try and warp normal every day situations to make yourself look and feel like a victim.

    Maybe ask your parents to buy you a used surfboard off Craigslist. Something they can afford.

    Also, what's WAF? More teenage girl s***?
     
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  8. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
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  9. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    ^good stuff headhigh, really good.
     
  10. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    So tell us, who is your oppressor? Show us on the doll where the surfboard man hurt you.
     
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  11. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    ^truly refreshing, I really needed the laugh today
     
  12. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I took you for the perpetually butthurt victim type, but you're welcome I guess?
     
  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Can you repeat the question... I'm not understanding. Maybe rephrase?

    I don't know who the pro would be oppressing... his sponsors?
    Who would the board builder being oppressing... the guy who bought his board?

    Neither one makes sense to me.
     
  14. World B Free

    World B Free Well-Known Member

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    Feb 7, 2013
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    headhigh and seldom seen like this.
  15. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Compared to the past, there are very few "Free" boards being given out. Those days are over with the exception of an elite few.
     
  16. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    On a side note the OP should get off of his duff and do something about his situation rather than complaining about it. Back in the late 80s I taught myself how to make boards in part because I was a young kid who couldn't afford new off the rack.

    The materials are widely available today unlike when I was starting out. You can make yourself a board for about $250 if you want it bad enough and even less if you want to get innovative with materials.
     
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  17. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    By the way, a typical board costs me as a backyard hack about $220 in materials. Add to that the tools I've purchased. A legit board builder has rent, mortgage, employees, insurance and taxes to pay for. It takes about 10 hours of labor to complete a board and most of that 10 hours exposes the builders to toxic chemicals, fumes and dust. Perhaps boards should start at $1,000.
     
  18. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    ^absolutely a voice of reason and experience. However, I do not think popouts like boardworks/surfteks/firewires meet your criteria and yet, those companies are the ones that started the ballooned prices on the backs of cheap (basically slave) labor. For the record, $400-$580 will get more repeat business than the higher pp
     
  19. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Go WAF yourself soyboy
     
  20. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    I think it's a legitimate discussion. May or may not be factual or correct, but his argument is plausible. If you're not convinced, then punch holes in his argument with facts and logic. It's a little early in the game for name-calling. Save that for the Trump threads.

    FWIW, I'm in the corner that handcrafted surfboards are a relative deal nowadays, considering the labor and materials involved. I'd need to build a lot of surfboards to pay my bills.

    OTOH, there's a trend towards popout technology, which would make the boards considerably less expensive to produce. So the OP has a legit point.