Illegal Mexicans

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by bennysgohome, Jul 30, 2010.

  1. conway

    conway Well-Known Member

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    Mar 24, 2008
    How do you that they are all Mexicans? Hispanic equals Mexican in the same way White equals American.
     
  2. HollowDaze

    HollowDaze Active Member

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    Feb 8, 2010
    and being against illegal immigration makes you a racist? What a bunch of PC crap.

    By the way, we should also arrest all of the Canadians hanging around looking for day work. Has anybody checked Neil Young's papers? He's Canadian and I hear he lives and works in CA.
     

  3. BeachCruiser01

    BeachCruiser01 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 14, 2007
    Every immigrant group has had their turn at the bottom when they came to this country. Its the Mexicans, Guatamalans, etc. turn right now. The same arguments being used against the current illegal immigrants (crime, taking our jobs, we don't need any more people, etc) was used against other groups back in the 1800's and early 1900's.

    Illegal or legal, they are coming here for a better life. Our immigration system is broken. If we made it easier to come here leagally and get them in the system, paying taxes, etc then the problem would be less, but xenophobia would still exist. Just look at past immigrant groups who came here "legally" then met with prejudice from the previous groups that immigrated here.

    Unless you are Native American, you are here illegally.
     
  4. conway

    conway Well-Known Member

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    Mar 24, 2008
    It's not PC crap, it's a simple matter of knowing what you're talking about.
     
  5. HollowDaze

    HollowDaze Active Member

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    Feb 8, 2010
    hmmmm.... interesting logic. What do you know about illegal immigration that you're holding back? That supporters of illegals cry racism to mask the true crime of people being here illegally? You should be advising the Fed Gov't in it's suit against Arizona.

    As far as xenophobia, I'm not buying it. Another fancy term for "you're a racist if you oppose illegal immigration." As evidenced by my previous posts to this thread, I support legal immigrants and their quest for a better life. My grandparents were immigrants who came thorough Ellis Island. Don't believe this malarkey that anyone who isn't an "American Indian" is an "illegal immigrant." Last I heard, American Indians only control small parts of this country where you can put a quarter in a slot machine or buy a pack of tax free smokes.
     
  6. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Active Member

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    Jun 14, 2010
    True, but I don't think you can say that they had much choice in that arrangement.
     
  7. ginsumagic

    ginsumagic Well-Known Member

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    Oct 27, 2009
    Mexicans aren"t the illegals in this country and what the F does this have to do with surfing? :eek:
     
  8. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I agree. Native Americans didn't have much choice. They were the true natives in this country and got screwed royally.

    Most Native Americans are against illegal immigrants and actual work on the border patrol units. They will help illegals that are in harms way but also do not allow them to come into the country illegally. I do believe that you have to come thru legal channels. When people from other countries come here legally (some wait for 15 years), then it isn't really fair allow illegals to just jump over the fence. That is the difference between past immigrants who had to deal with racism and illegal immigrants. Even though the past immigrants faced racism, they came here legally as imposed to the illegal immigrants today. You can't say don't enforce this law but enforce others. Soon we will be against enforcing more laws and then have real problems.

    We have a current legal immigration process in place. It is to prevent over population that towns can't handle and also prevent crimes. We can't handle an influx of this many people and the drain on the economy. It definitely needs some fixes but the law has to be followed.

    I didn't mean to imply that all illegals are Mexicans. I apologize if anyone took it that way. I am against all illegal immigration no matter where that person is from (Europe, Mexico, Australia, Canada, Russia, ).
     
  9. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2008
    last time I went to Mexico the cops racially profiled me and pulled me over for no legal reason, and held me up for just over $400
     
  10. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    classic...thanks for posting that Ray.

    I loved his last line "Congress merely has to reduce the number back to 1965"

    And people make this whole immigration thing out to be SO complicated.
     
  11. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    lol. I get where you are going with this. It can't be argued in the Mid-Atlantic region though especially with people who's ancestors came here after America was formed.
     
  12. Salty

    Salty Well-Known Member

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    Jul 10, 2008
    .....I know for a fact that the mafia produces authentic illegal mexicans just to f*ck up the economy and stir up debate between otherwise reasonable people! (well, ok, not a fact, just a theory, but it could be true!!!) - and don't forget to check the basement for pods!
     
  13. Ray F.

    Ray F. Well-Known Member

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    Sep 13, 2009
    Perhaps you don't recognize the Constitution, so this is your opinion, but technically (and legally) people who cross the border without coming through customs are very much illegal aliens...Mexican or not.

    As far as it's tie to surfing, there isn't one. We post off-topic issues when there's no waves. ;)
     
  14. surfordie

    surfordie Well-Known Member

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    May 2, 2010
    I try to sympathise with all the ''I'm not racist blah blah blah'' Charlie Daniels type garbage. What about all the illegal Europeans here though? And even if they are legal people complain about them taking the jobs in America. How about all the Russians that come to work in Wildwood, and Ocean City for the summer? How about the ones that don't speak english? I try to listen to the anti illegal immigration arguments, but MOST of the time it winds up going right into particularly tageting MEXICANS as if they are the only illegals in this country. How about illegal Canadians? People probably wouldn't even know most illegal Canadians if they saw one as their accents blend in except for the ones with the thick French Canadian accent. And to the person who says they are sick of every downtown turning into a foriegn country well that makes you sound like a total ignorant bigot. How would you feel if all the Guatamalan's/Mexicans/Hispanics who were around in these downtown areas were here legally? Would you still be sick of it? Or better yet what if they are PUERTO RICAN? They can come, and go as they please in this country legally whenever they feel like.


    Man I remember the days when up in Jersey most Hispanic folks were generalized into Puerto Rican. Didn't matter if they were Puerto Rican, Mexican, Bolivian, Guatamalan, Cuban. They were automatically called Puerto Ricans. In the last 10 years with all this illegal immigration debate going on though every Latino you see is automatically a Mexican.

    One more thing. Up in Connecticut where a buddy of mine used to live there was a neighborhood crawling with all kinds of Polish peoples. They didn't speak english either. I never went back again, because I was sick of feeling like I was in Warsaw! By the way sometimes I get the feeling of Moscow in Wildwood with all the Russians working there in the Summer!

    Up in Bergen County New Jersey where I am from it's mostly Korean. In fact there is not many fewer Koreans there than there are White people. Then again I supposed a lot of you would have a problem with them just as much, because they aren't WHITE!

    EDIT - barrels4liam I read another posts you made prior to mine after I had already posted this post. I probably came off as a **** in targeting you, and calling you an ignorant bigot. I still didn't like the comment about downtowns turning into foreign countries, but after reading another post of your I can understand where you are coming. I myself would not be against immigration reform if it went for EVERYONE who is illegal from any country outside the United States whether it is Canada, the Koreas, China, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Russia, Hungary, Mexico, Cuba, etc. I just don't like the emphasis on Mexicans being the biggest problem. Obviously it is easier, and more convinient to get to America from Mexico than say anywhere in Europe I think everyone needs to be looked at, and not just the Mexicans.

    Personally mixed political opinions on things is what has stopped me from voting. Not to get even more into politics, but I am conservative to a point, but a lot of rednecks I have come across who are Republicans seem very heartless, Think social security should be abolished even though everyone including them who works on the books has paid into it, and they think people with disabilities should not be allowed support from the government, food stamps, etc. and then the Democrats these days like to go after the lower middle class working poor[Obamacare FORCING people to buy health insurance whether they can afford it or not] raising income taxes even for people in the poverty level, and making it just as hard to live on the working poor as the Republicans. so these things make me think about things a little more. So barrels4liam sorry for jumping the gun at you. I think we seem to be on the same page. While immigration reform isn't in my agenda I am not opposed to it when it goes after everyone, and not just Mexicans or a particular group of people.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2010
  15. LOSTsoul

    LOSTsoul Well-Known Member

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    Apr 29, 2009
    y'all should tune into my boy Lou Dobbs. "Legal and humane Immigration" PERIOD. The federal govt is just plan playing politics with the immigration issue. It's sad and pathetic especially coming from an administration with such foresight and intellectuals ;).....NOT!

    this pic sums it up....how bout a little survivalism / nationalism from our paid federal govt. I mean isn't there main goal to protect the country's boarders; our sovereignty?
     

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  16. jettyface

    jettyface Well-Known Member

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    Aug 5, 2009
    I believe the reason is, and I could be wrong, that you do not need a social security number to get a license in Maryland.
     
  17. ginsumagic

    ginsumagic Well-Known Member

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  18. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I never said anything about towns turning into foreign countries. I originally just wanted to know about the license plates. Something has to be done about the issue. As an American, we have to protect our sovereignty but you can see why some of these people come here. If you were in their position, you may come here too. I'm very strongly opposed to illegal immigration but if I were born in another country I may be jumping the border too. It's a tough issue. Easy from a legal standpoint but hard from a human standpoint.
     
  19. surfordie

    surfordie Well-Known Member

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    May 2, 2010
    Sorry again. My ignorance, and no excuses. It was someone else who made the statement about dowtowns turning into foreign countries like the Manasquan Acme, and bus stops. I knew I should have double checked that. Like I said no excuses from me, and that was ignorance on my part.
     
  20. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    you how some people say, hey you were once an immigrant too? well, I feel the difference between some immigrants and others is that that mexicans are just notorius for jumping the border illegally. if they would just go through customs and get their papers right, they could work like all the other europeans at the fry stands on the board walk.

    plus a lot of the europeans that work during the season are not illegal.
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2010