Rehoboth wastewater outfall pipe

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by oceanisnotasbigaswethink, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    #2, I would think is debatable.

    #5 is a good point.

    With that being said, that alleviates most of the issues I have with the systems. I understand that SD and CA base pipes are the only systems that also include rainwater drainage (Which is why they fail, religiously). These are 50 year old systems that were built when the population here was about 200,000. and now its 4 million. It almost never rains, so they just take a gamble every year.... So yes, the DE system would not have the overflow problem caused by the rain overflow....

    So, i am glad that we have started an intelligent conversation about the topic. It sounds like everyone needs to further educate themselves about this topic locally. I still have to chime in and say that I just generally oppose large pipes of sh** going out to sea.
     
  2. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    WTF?? how does jersey play in to this, exactly?? :mad::confused:


    the pipe is a bad idea. period. end of discussion. i am but one of many thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands, of people who have been or currently are deathly ill from untreated waste water outflow. sure, the fact that it's miles off shore makes it seem ok b/c the currents will dilute it, but eventually it all ends up back on the coastline. ditto w/ the army dumps dioxin-tainted dredge spoils off sandy hook back in the 90's or dumping unexploded WWI & II munitions off the coast. it all ends up back on the beach. or it ends up inside us from the seafood we eat.

    having nearly died from an infection directly related to a sewage spill, i'll never be impartial on a topic like this again in my life. but it's pretty easy to see that dumping crap (literally in this case) in the ocean is a bad idea all around.
     

  3. oceanisnotasbigaswethink

    oceanisnotasbigaswethink Well-Known Member

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    Sep 20, 2010
    My purpose here wasnt to get into a debate but to simply put some facts on the table.....to shine a light on the situation because a lot of residents(and non-res) dont know about it. Now I feel like I have to address the above statements as they are a little obscure and somewhat untrue.

    1. Opinion
    2.....hint.....my username
    3. OK, OK
    4. There are plenty more documented affects. Some come up on Google but if you want to really see some heavy research go to the local university library and read some journals. True, there is no evidence yet that supports any issues with marine mammals.
    5. True
    6. Wastewater disposal on land is not yet a perfect technology.....true.
    7. LBA is more expensive. So the people trying to save money on the outfall are going to spend it on fixing the inland bays?
    8.True...I miss those good ol eel grass beds.
    9.In sussex county the main use of groundwater is ag irrigation. This actually changes the dynamics of groundwater in terms of how it naturally flows. Yes, the aquifer is a good one.
    10. Correct
    11. I couldnt have said it better. True!

    Yes, there is actually more information known about our moon than the Delaware bay benthic habitats. That said, research is key to knowledge.

    Wikipidia has discredited a lot of scientists......joking.
     
  4. El Porto

    El Porto Well-Known Member

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    Dec 28, 2007
    I did not quote you or attempt to quote you in any way. However since you brought it up, here is your quote below. Are you seriously going to say that you weren't under the impression that OC and S. Bethany already had outfall pipes when you wrote this? Because it's pretty clear that you did not and were implying that the Rehoboth outfall would create some risk to OC that didn't already exist. Just want to give you a chance to save some credibility.

    ohh boy, I cant wait to surf North OC MD in years to come. When there is a nice South Drift coming down the DE coast, I will duck dive and come up with a mouthful of someone else's dingleberries!!! Awesome. Can't wait.
     
  5. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Wow, thanks for the opportunity to prove my "credability". I am not trying to be a jerk about it, but the fact that I was unaware of the South Bethany Pipe does not matter. Yes, when I was 12 years old, in OC, I was unaware.

    Does that matter? No. Does that change my opinion, No.

    So, let me ask you a few things.

    Have you ever been hosptialized from sewage spills into the ocean? Well, I have.

    Have you ever had a doctor tell you that the bactiera levels in the ocean almost ended your life... Well I have.

    have you had a mdeical staff tell you that it was due to the bacteria levels that were released from the local sewage pipe 1 mile south of where you surf everyday.

    So, really, all BS aside, im not trying to be a dic* about it. But you guys can swear up and down that all the human feces is "Dilluted" and that there are no rainfall/overflow issues etc... You are reading data produced by the very companies who plan on implimenting these systems....

    I dont care what the ratio or percentages are... if there is a .00000000000001% chance that one of you will be bed ridden for a month, unable to walk because you surfed within a mile of one of these precious drain pipes when it has a malfuction... And if that is a posibility, you shouldnt want anything to do with these pipes...

    Talk to NJSURFER about it. He sounds like a jersey native WHO ALSO ALMOST DIED because of these sewage pipes, Not in CA either. With the same kind of systems that you are speaking of...

    So, if I was someone, who actually spent daily water time anywhere on the midatlantic coast, there is NO WAY, that you could ever convince me that this is SAFE, or a good idea...

    I am probably wrong... But that is because I have had this scenario happen to me, in real life. All case studies and statistics aside, I almost became one..... So, I air on the side of caution. Call me uniformed. Call me out of the loop. Call me what you will. But I would vote any clown out of office who back this idea. ANYONE....
     
  6. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009

    bingo.

    it's hard to be rational/logical/analytical about something like this when you almost ended up as one of the numbers people cite in debates about this sort of thing.
     
  7. EJsurfnfish

    EJsurfnfish Active Member

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    Dec 16, 2007
    Haha, I don't know if Rasta wants to get a nice slime coating on his kayak from the dirty azz Christina.

    NJsurfer and Zach, I feel your pain. My friend and I both came down with a severe stomach infection after surfing Baja Malibu in Mex just after a winter rain. I thought I could beat it and didn't go to the doctor's until I literally could not stand up. I lost 15 pounds and had to be put on some big antibiotics. The only problem is if we go the LBA route I fear more people will get sick in the bays.

    The reason I mentioned California and New Jersey is because Delaware is different. We don't have the old system of outfall pipes, population, or runoff problems. Our water has always tested relatively low for bacteria counts. Our actual beach sand has higher bacteria levels than the water. Our inland bay water is a different story. Nothing against NJ, the waves there are some of the best on the east coast.