dropping in

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by oceanisnotasbigaswethink, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. oceanisnotasbigaswethink

    oceanisnotasbigaswethink Well-Known Member

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    Sep 20, 2010
    Im sure this has been brought up before but I think it needs to be said again.

    There are a few good reasons not to drop in on someone.
    1.It is dangerous
    2.It is disrespectful
    3.Insert other reasons here-_________________________

    The other day was fun and pumping. There was a crowd. It wasnt very competetive, everybody was trading waves and having fun. A wave comes, Im in position (on a jetty) and go. As Im flying down the line a guy drops in, I hoot, he jumps off the back of the wave. As I fly by his board smacks me in the temple, you know the soft spot right above the ear. Felt like somebody hit me with a baseball bat. I saw stars, yelled at him, he denied it, oh well, boo hoo. Been throwing up and dizzy with a headache on that side of my head. Blurred vision, disoriented, not going to work today. Went to put cat food out and somehow it ended up in the freezer?

    Most guys know not to drop in. But for the beginners or guys that dont understand why. This is why.......remember surf etiquite.......dont drop in!
     
  2. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Unfortunately the guy now thinks he can get away with it. When you feel better, you ought to find him and further discuss it with him.
     

  3. Bronze Whaler

    Bronze Whaler Well-Known Member

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    Aug 22, 2009
    3. You wouldn't want someone to do it to you! (the "Golden Rule")

    You might want to go see a doctor sounds like you're concussed.

    The other day I was surfing some waist high+ glassy waves on my Groveler, I got a good one "outside" (relatively speaking) off the groin and was flying down the line connecting a few sections, this kid starts paddling on the shoulder, staring at me, keeps paddling while looking right at me, then his weight starts to create a disturbance on the wave and right as I approach him (and the wall he has crushed) he turns his head away from me and pops up, at which point I yelled "what are you DOING!?!" Then he tries to tell me he "didn't think I was going to make it around that section." What section? The one you just flattened by paddling for the wave while looking right at me? Are you questioning my ability to connect sections after you just watched me ride it from the outside all the way to the inside shoulder? Really?

    But to his credit he did do the right thing and leave immediately. I'm gonna yell more often.
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2010
  4. oceanisnotasbigaswethink

    oceanisnotasbigaswethink Well-Known Member

    46
    Sep 20, 2010
    no worries EmptyM, If thats you with your arms flailing on that miniramp. Nice attempt at a smith grind btw. It was an old guy not a 13 year old.
     
  5. instantkarma

    instantkarma Well-Known Member

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    Oct 14, 2009
    Its unfortunate, but there are people on this website who post forums asking what wetsuit to wear when it is 55. If they don't even know how to prepare to go in the water, what makes you think they would know what to do when in the water? Look, I am not the best surfer, however I come from a generation (almost 40) where you educate yourself about the things you are interested in. You ask important questions when applicable, but more important you observe. If I go surf in a new place, I always observe first for at least a half hour to see all the variables that are happening in the water, including the surfers who appear to be running the show. I have surfed on the inside many days just because I feel it is the respectful thing to do rather then interupt the flow of a big session. I have the skills to handle a big session, however it is not worth it to me. I know that on my next 2 week trip to CR or Baja I will have many waves all to myself. Mid Atlantic surfing is jsut bonus for me.

    Its just about respect and knowledge. And I don't think some people have either. Again, go back two weeks and there was an entire three pages of posts about guys asking other surfers whether to wear booties or not in 60 degree water. I don't know if they are just plain stupid or they think other people care if their feet are cold.

    More importantly, get yourself to a doctor and get some rest. And unfortunately my advice is seek out a spot where few people surf and sacrifice some wave quality for less kooks.
     
  6. MD Sponger

    MD Sponger Member

    10
    Aug 29, 2010
    i seem to get dropped in on constantly. granted, i am a bodyboarder who generally surfs alone, but nonetheless its annoying as well as dangerous. a few years ago i had a guy drop in on me in relatively heavy surf in OBX. i had been riding the wave already for a few seconds before he decided to come down right in front of me. he ended up cutting back and running over my legs. we had words.

    then a few weeks ago i was out at my home break and kept getting hassled by some 13 yr old punk kid. dropped in on me 4 TIMES and exclaimed "this is why i hate this spot." i had finally had enough, told the kid to go f**k himself, and moved down the beach. it wasnt worth the aggravation. something like that can ruin your day in the water if u let it. so what if i ride on my stomach, dropknee, standing up, or f**king laying down backwards, we are all out there for the same reason.

    just needed to rant haha,
     
  7. goofy footer

    goofy footer Well-Known Member

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    Sep 23, 2010
    That should made into a sign and posted @ NorthSide ;)
     
  8. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008

    The problem with your approach is that you sent a message to that kid that if he acts like a jerk people will leave his spot.
     
  9. bauer

    bauer Well-Known Member

    182
    Aug 22, 2010
    People who drop in suck with the crowds that keep getting worse and worse and with surfing so main stream now. Seems everyone wants to surf.. And of coirse the newb's dont know the rules so they need to be schooled so telling a kook that they dropped in on you and shouldnt ever do that again is something that needs to be said. But then you have the aggro guys who rip and also drop in on people cause somehow they feel like they have the right cause either they do rip and most likely will surf that wave better then the avg guy in the lineup and probably better than me but still doesnt give them the right usually they are with a bunch of bro's so I usually try to stay in the waves and run them over when they attempt a cutty so they know I am not going to back down and then paddle back out and sit next to them if they dont say yo bro sorry didnt see you on it(which does happen ) then I usually try to give him a payback till I cool down and realize he is ruining my session and stoke and I then keep my distance. Part of this reason is that in surf vids you see the pro's burning people all the time. Ever watch a vid and they feature a pro and show clips of them getting barrelled and then you see some poor bastard on the inside getting burned/ I notice it all the time. Was just watching some clips of Slater on you tube ripping he is the best but he burns people also. I dont think that stuff like that should be exposed on vids Pros should be setting examples and even if they do burn guys in crowds all the time they should put it on film for the impressionable to see.. Just my two cents but I do give up countless waves cause I never want to drop in on someone and sometimes its a tough call if the guy will make the section or not so I try to see who is ripping and who is not the better guys I assume will make the section others chances are they wont make it past the bottom turn then the green light is on. Beginners shouldnt be out in crowds this time of year.
     
  10. EmptyM

    EmptyM Active Member

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    Jul 31, 2010
    -problem is, regulators are always needed, but then people complain about them when they are present in the line up, but as soon as they are gone or not around they complain and whine that there are too many idiots around.
    -just like you pick up trash from your beach and are hopefully vocal of people acting like idiots on land, you must do the same in the line up. but just like you want the newbies, kooks, & tourons to have common sense, you must do this as well.
    -I grew up having respect for my line ups, because if i didnt, i'd get my ass beat.

    -all those photos are of me ocean, sorry they all suck, i usually take the photos and my friends are lame with a camera, but i did take the 2 wave shots - the window is across the street from my house and the other is of where i've been riding for 30 years, and we can skate together anytime you'd like, just let me know. i am always down.
     
  11. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    agree with you. Usually the people who whine the most about regulators are the ones who are getting regulated the most!!
     
  12. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    everyone should be enforcing out there. Drop in on the stud, get stink eye. Do it twice, you get confronted. I sure as sh!T dont want a concussion from some kooks funboard. You should go back to that spot while he is hitting the shower and **** him up, point break style. Bodie is dead, utah doesnt stand a chance.

    buttttttt still, your the one who decided to surf in the crowd - comes with the territory....
     
  13. MD Sponger

    MD Sponger Member

    10
    Aug 29, 2010
    this is probably true. but i figure i got over it quick enough to enjoy the rest of my day.. which was a blast. id rather let him think hes king of the ocean then end up having my day ruined. my point is, people should know better. even though i let it go, he won't always be so lucky. i'll let karma deal with it.
     
  14. Retro

    Retro Active Member

    40
    Oct 24, 2008
    we are all negelecting to mention one other aspect of this. i have been surfing over 30 years and strongly believe in surf etiquette (not dripping in)... but have seen an increase, usually when surfing away from my home break, with guys (usually locals) who will catch a wave then paddle right back to the outside position, basically blowing off everyone who is waiting in turn in the lineup. live they are entitled to catch every wave, yell everyone off and have every choice set wave to themselves. In my opinion, this is the only justified reason for a drop in - to send them a message. I am not going to sit there all day and watch the same couple of guys catch every wave then paddle right back out to the outside position. there has to be respect for taking your turn in the line-up.
     
  15. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    I don't think that is reason for a drop in at all. why not just out position them for a wave?
     
  16. BonerSurfs

    BonerSurfs Well-Known Member

    504
    Apr 14, 2007
    I feel your pain bro... Same exact thing happened to me a few weeks ago... Perfect chest high set, reeling down the beach, got a sick barrel and was about to pull into another one... THEN A FAT, ****HEAD LOOKIN BODYBOARDER WASHES OUT THE SECTION!!!!! Ughhhhhh!!! I exchanged some words with him, mainly about how he was an idiot and needs to learn not to wash out peoples sections. But seriously, I think about that wave all the time and just get pissed.. It was such a perfect wave and that ****er ruined it!

    Man, come to think of it a lot of my "best" waves have been ruined by people washing out sections on me. When I was younger I remember getting such a sick barrel, just cruising inside the thing, and was definitly gonna make it out... When all of the sudden, Stupid ass old man on a longboard completely washes out the exit. He had the worst excuse too, He said "I wanted to watch you come out of that thing..." I about smacked him in the face right there!!!
     
  17. BonerSurfs

    BonerSurfs Well-Known Member

    504
    Apr 14, 2007
    As I have already stated here. When someone drops in on you. Sit on next to them, wait till they get a pretty nice wave, and drop in on them. Thats what I always do. Then tell them that "were even now," he wont drop in on you again...
     
  18. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    I will give them a nice talking to but if they do it again, I shadow them and sit right in front of their board so they can't get a thing. It's so much fun chasing guys all over the lineup and preventing them from catching waves! After about 10 minutes they leave.
     
  19. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

    706
    Aug 26, 2008
    IMO, this is not a reason to drop in. If you are surfing in a spot like this, you need to be IN that priority position so when they paddle back out, you are already there, sitting at the take off spot, making it clear you intend to paddle for the next set.
     
  20. goofy footer

    goofy footer Well-Known Member

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    Sep 23, 2010
    I haven't heard this etiquite in a long time; we did this years ago and it caught on but don't hear it much anymore. When multiple surfers trying for a wave yelled "left" or "right" on direction and yelled "coming down" if late comer was trying to drop in. I know it sounds stupid but it worked for us.

    The Sunday after Igor at NorthSide, some middle age sufer you think would know better was dropping in cutting off riders already coming down the line. Those cut off were vocal so I didn't want the same experience paddled over to give him some fatherly advise not to drop in late on other surfers. This surfer stared at me like I was from freaking Mars then he voiced something and realized he was a deaf mute. Maybe feel bad :(