frontside/backside

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by SoDelLocal, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. SoDelLocal

    SoDelLocal Well-Known Member

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    Jul 17, 2010
    Ok so this topic has probably already been covered a million times but I wanted some personalized feedback. First of all, I'm what I like to call a "self-made" surfer in that, I have friends who surf but I was too ashamed to let them teach me how to surf (I started trying about 3 years ago as a compliment to my skating) and basically learned what I know from reading/youtube/just being in the lineup literally every single day.

    All that being said, I ride goofy, and thus, my frontside is when I go left. I can kill going frontside, but I kind of struggle from time to time or go in a slump where going right is hard for me to accomplish. My question is whether or not this is a normal thing. What I mean is, do normal riders also prefer going to their frontside (which is right)? I ask this because most of our breaks around here are rights, and I really want to work on getting a solid feel for tucking in when going backside. Any tips?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. ND081

    ND081 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 7, 2010
    MOST of the time goofy footers prefer lefts (frontside), but not everyone. Id pick a left over a right any day, while my friend actually prefers rights for some reason. i guess its all a preference thing but skill level may also play into it
     

  3. DaMook

    DaMook Well-Known Member

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    Dec 30, 2009
    try a longboard.it will at least give you more time to adjust and understand the pattern of moves you must use to drop in, bottom turn and trim out in the speed zone.

    Once you figure it all out, you'll realize how much easier a backside cutback/snap is than a front side cutback/snaps. I'm a regular foot, and prefer backside becuase I can turn harder off the top and fully extend my legs. Plus, almost every world class wave is a left so...
     
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  4. Recycled Surfer

    Recycled Surfer Well-Known Member

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    Jan 1, 2010
    Most surfers prefer front side I guess because the wave in front of you vs behind you and they feel more comfortable doing a hard bottom turn front side. My advise would be to surf right breaking waves till they become second nature. Also, if you have a skate board practice hard rights letting it all hang out. One day it will click and you wont give it a second thought.
     
  5. ND081

    ND081 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 7, 2010
    the skateboard idea is actually great. i used to take my longboard to my friends quarter pipe and just practice doing backside pivots on the coping (to replicate a snap)
     
  6. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    I dont try to stick to going Frontside (left) or Backside ( Right) for a whole lot . I switch it up alot so there isnt any awardness when going one way or the other
     
  7. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee the Stud will tell you what you need to know.
     
  8. surfingboy65

    surfingboy65 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2010
    I ride regular and find that dropping in and bottom turning are extremely easy for me on rights (frontside) but the hard powerful turns are a little harder, while on lefts (backside) i find dropping in and bottom turn a little harder, but powerful turns come a lot easier, also i find getting shacked is way easier frontside, but all i do is practice going backside and it will get easier which i have found
     
  9. shackedNJ

    shackedNJ Well-Known Member

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    Aug 9, 2010
    I think it's alot of personal preference. I prefer my cutback and lip manuevers going frontside, but I prefer going backside when Im tucking into a barrel. I find it so much easier to grab a rail and drag a hand in the face going backside...I think everyone has their preferences, but when your skill level gets up you can equally enjoy a left or right, so just keep surfing til you get there.
     
  10. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    I am also a lefty, and then I moved to VB, where a majority of the waves are rights. I learned to surf them pretty well. I think the tricky thing with surfing backside is that you don't get a full view of the entire wave, and that the bottom turn is not fully drawn out like it would be if you were surfing frontside. The initial turn, whether a big bottom turn or just a small one to get yourself going, is really where it all starts.

    Try surfing smaller waves going backside. Try to do the pig-dog at first and then once your on the wave stand up. Rinse and repeat. It'll eventually come to you.
     
  11. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Just force it on yourself. ONLY go right. For like a whole month. Only sit on right handers etc... Its a comfort thing... But once you get your pumping down and stuff, you will realize that there a EASIER moves that you can do backside... Like the backside round house etc... You can lay so much more power and torque into some backside moves, and visa versa, but once you feel the power and drive of the different turns, you will be much more confident.... backside Barrels are easier to line up. Backside top turns are easier to fan. Backside Roundhouses are 100 times better backside cause you can slam all your weight down through the turns...

    So, force yourself to play with it, then you will froth at those right handers... Do the pig dog to get your barrel riding down. Take a nice drop, hold your rail, hit one knee if you have to and line up under the lip... There's a big upside to backside turning, you just gotta find your rythm and keep trying it.
     
  12. HaoleNJ

    HaoleNJ Well-Known Member

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    Nov 17, 2010
    what he said...last fall with all those nor-easters was the best thing that ever happened to my back side. and watching dane rip back side. he has a patented blow tail going backside. (or whatever you wanna call it)
     
  13. mongoloid

    mongoloid Well-Known Member

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    Nov 5, 2010
    Its all in the hips.
     
  14. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009

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  15. RobG

    RobG Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2010
    i tend to struggle more on my backside as well. i have no problem pumping for speed and getting some solid turns frontside but backside is a whole different story, i can never seem to keep up my speed to get past closeout sections.

    i recently got a carver skateboard which has helped a lot, it really does have a surfy feel to it and ive been taking it to some banks and ditches and just pumping and carving around and i feel much more comfortable on my backside. i definitely recommend a carver for anyone that surfs, its super fun

    i just need to practice backside more though, its much easier to just stick to what you know and go frontside but you have to force yourself to work more on what you need to improve
     
  16. terra-firma intolerant

    terra-firma intolerant Well-Known Member

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    Jul 5, 2008
    One thing that I read Kelly Slater talking about that was a revelation for my backside was "taking the high line" when you take off. Frontside, this come naturally, but backside, it's sorta counter-intuitive since your visibility range of the wave is cut down by like 1/3. So, when you take off backside, really focus on taking that high line to get your speed up, then drop down to your bottom turn and bash the lip. You'll also figure out how to mimic your frontside pump but backside, since that's the ideal place to pump on a wave anyways.

    This doesn't necessarily apply to stepper waves, but more so for rippable surf.

    The main thing is that backside surfing is less natural, so you have to tell yourself what you're going to do "okay, take the high line" then do it. It pretty much get's ingrained in your surfing instincts after like 1 session if you go backside the whole time.
     
  17. Stranded in Smithfield

    Stranded in Smithfield Well-Known Member

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    Jan 15, 2010
    All good advise... I ride regular (sounds weird but goofy on longboards and skating) ...anyways I PREFER backside surf. I surf tighter, push turns harder, get more vertical, more radical, more comfortable in size, link maneuvers better... hell all my best combos are backside. The only thing I do better front-side is get barreled. Ugh! My front-side surfing is inconsistent and kinda weak. Not even sure how it happened cause I have surfed a mix of lefts and rights my whole surfing life. If you want to see good back-side rail surfing, get any Occy video.. I studied those things when I was a kid.
     
  18. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Wanna really blow your mind? Try an asymmetrical.

    I can get more power on a backside snap off the top, cause you're going from heel to toe, and you can add more leverage with your ankle and foot. As for pumping, you can't do it the same way both sides. It's ergonomically impossible.. all your joints a facing the wrong way. I find the best way to pump backside is to point my toes more toward the nose, and turn my hips more perpendicular to the stringer. I seem to be able to pump faster, and pumping out of sync with the natural flex of the board just does not generate speed effectively. When it comes to pumping, timing is everything!
     
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  19. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2008
    as a Goofy Foot my simple rule - aim with your right hand going frontside and with your right foot when backside
     
  20. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    well the surf has been flat so iv been working more on YANKEE's girls backside. She seems to prefer it when i grab rail pony tail and pull out late.

    as far as your surfing... good luck with all that