surfing etiquette thread

Good video for all! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTvOyTtPzRg&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

This is where a friend comes in handy. You alternate waves with your friend and whoever isn't catching it paddles in front of the kook or "accidentally" gets caught on their leash. Do this for a half hour or more and it's almost guaranteed that they will never come back to your break

 

I guess my question is, is it bad etiquette to out paddle someone to the peak, given that you are equal distances away, and both on the same type of small high-performance short board? I felt I had done nothing wrong until he started screaming at me, then I wasn’t quite so sure anymore. It ruined the whole session though.[/QUOTE]

I find it fun as hell to race someone to the peak when we r both away from it...

 

I do this alot if there are is a cpl of ppl droping in . taking turns blocking for you bro while the other takes a wave is alway a simple way of getting your point across with out any confratation

 

ok I have an question and will state up front I'm stilling learning and live inland and don't get out much. But what about this. i ride longer boards because I like them and am still learning, I only go out on days that are knee to waist. I keep distance from others and know how to watch out and tell if someone is already on a wave. That all said I have found that a number of times I'll be out, a little more outside because i have a longer board and then someone or a few folks with shorter boards will set up in front of me. Being new I always move and don't make a fuss about it but do wonder what the general etiquette is?

 

This question has been around for ages . I feel if your in this situation and you up and already making your bottom turn you have the wave.

Like I stated in my previous post in this thread. Sometime you will be already up and on the wave weather it be you pearched in the nose or making your bottom turn and setting the rail . Sometimes if some is inside tries to drop in behind you in the foam they try to sneak around you or think they have priority. I dont think its true and they are in the wrong. I will say that there are some older head that sit way out side and try to catch every wave while its just a lump and not even a formed wave. In that instance the person on the inside has the wave cause it didnt form into a wave til it got closer to him

 

'lump sat alone in a buggy marsh,
totally motionless except for her heart...'

lol

when does a lump become a wave?

 

when it hasnet formed a crest or peak yet. I see alot of older guys sit out way outside and start paddleing there ass off before it has even formed into a wave.

 

If you are a local, this is questionably okay. If you are not a KNOWN local at the spot and you pull that sh** on a local, you will get called out for sure. If its your turn, its your turn, but if you got a wave after the guy next to you and you speed up to beat him to the peak, you will start some sh**. Ive seen it. Ive done it... So, if its your local spot and you have a place in the lineup, its no worries, but if you pull that sh** at the wrong place, you will get punked.

I learned this the hard way at windansea like 8 years ago... I was in the pack, I took a short wave that ended up closing out, so I popped over the back and started paddling back. The peak was empty. A set came and I sped up my paddle, and the closest guy was like 20 yards behind me (so he wouldnt have even made it anyway) so I sped up and took the peak and a few guys to the inside had to back off. When I paddled back out, they were all like strike one bro... if you ever want to surf here, I suggest you never do that sh** again...

So, long story short, even if you have a short wave or whatever, and you are closer to the peak... watch it.... That means you probably got a sh**y wave, so you belong at the bottom of the order after that anyway.... If you pick a sh** wave, thats on you. You cant pop out and paddle right back to the peak, even if you are closest... That is the best way to get removed from a good spot no matter where you are....

 

from a shortboarder, I agree that the guys inside are probably right. The whole reason LB and SB riders clash is for this reason. Just because you can catch a wave that far out, does not mean that you should. If guys have established a lineup to the inside of you, you are a di** if you start paddling deep than them and waiting.... Ever old dude I know tries this and it doesn't last.... The shortboarders will eventually just start snaking them left and right... And if it gets out of hand, I have seen the shortboard sandwhich where they lineup on each of the LB's shoulders and paddle inwards, making every option for the longboarder a drop in.

I mean, if the surf is good, then this is not an issue. And if the shortboarders at your spot are really good, believe me, they can paddle into any wave, just as far out as you can on a LB....

I got the treat of a free surf at trestles while Taj was surfing this year, and im telling you, Taj and his boys were catching the lowers peak like 150 yards outside the lineup. I mean, they were paddling so fast and so hard, they were taking off on every line super early. I mean, long baorders were WAAAY inside of them... Definately made me go home and just paddle my as$ off for days....

 

This is the lesson most have not learned yet.

 

IMO paddling away from a perpetual offender is that absolute worse thing you can do. First of all it let's everyone in the lineup know you are a pushover. secondly, it enables the offender to continue his behavior since he knows there is no consequence for his bad behavior.

I like some of the non-direct things people do in thee types of situations like boxing them in or the inadvertent leash 'tangle'. I like to sit in front of them and follow them around so they don't catch a thing. When they finally say something I reply 'You are ruining everybody else's session so now you know how it feels'. When all else fails the direct route might be the only option and most of the time begin WILLING to exercise that option is enough.

 

Paddling...

i've been on both sides of this. younger & later, the tables have turned. i must confess, i took advantage of my place in the line-up last week. myself and the boys had to clean-out some people who NEVER surf a very certain spot. all of sudden I paddled right over top of a local buddy who i thought was a "schoobie" and I didn't know it until after-the-fact. he flipped **** as i should have recognized him... the good thing out of this, the kooks and whipper snappers cleared the take-off zone and life went on. i haven't surfed since, i just felt like crap afterwards! if someone paddles out b4 or after the locals are set, it doesn't mean a thing and stay out of the way. if u feel like u can match the energy and not mess a wave up move on into the zone. but if u a surfing a local spot expect the locals to take every wave. if u r not from there, work ur way in slowly. if ur good, show ur stuff and u will be invited in quickly. if u suck, well...ur not getting waves at local jetties unless u sneak off a shoulder or find the place empty (and that never happens!)

 

OBlove, go sing Taste of Ink! HA HA HA HA, whats up dude

 

I am going to disagree with this one. What, its my fault that I have friends? I'm not going to inconvenience myself

 

Okay StudLee, if your going to call people out for blasting a little WEezy F Baby when they pull up to the parking lot. Don't, DO NOT TRY TO SPEAK AUSTRALIAN ON AN INTERNET FORUM.... MATE!
Shooots, Aloha and CHeerrrs dont fly out here brahhhhhhh

 

Where does all this aggression take place? More than 75% of the posts on this board are local spots, locals only blah blah blah... By reading this board it seems like every paddle out you should be ready for a fist fight.

I started out in LBI, now surf Monmouth beaches, and even made a trip out to Jaco Costa Rica - never once have I seen half the aggression that takes on this message board. Everyone I surfed with at all these places have all been welcoming - just took a what's up and a smile. I'm not even a good surfer either, I know I suck and make kook mistakes constantly.

Is it that people are exaggerating a bit or do we all like talking like tough guys when we're on an anonymous internet chat board?

 

i think theres a rule...when your on the internet you're 8 times harder