2 fin classic fish question

are they aliens?

 

you don't ride a traditional fish the same way that you would a typical hpsb. while most hpsb thrusters want to be turned off the back off, a traditional fish likes to be turned (& trimmed) off the front. that's my experience anyway. & the ideal place, i found, for my back foot was either slightly in front of, or directly over, the fins. you'll also want to use the rail more on your turns, rather than trying to pivot off the fin cluster. this will cause your turns to be more drawn out, but they'll also be smoother. you should also loose that stalling sensation.

 

nice,42,i agree 100%.very well done.now i want to ride mine tomorrow!

 

NJ42 obviously has put in some time on a twin or two...yep. Ya know a twin really is your friend, a true go to board. If your open-minded about a drivey semi-loose board jump on on one. I have almost solely ridden one since 05 and swear by them. What 42 mentioned about foot placement is spot on, really. They like to be surfed right on top of the fins, but whats cool is the sweet spot is just Huge! You can surf just in front or behind the fins and stilll be in control...all these smooth drawn out lines, really spoil you. I like the twin keels best (mine are glass ons) and the Hank Warner Starfish has been my board of choice both in PU and Epoxy. A fairly deep double-concave seems to work best and HW has these things wired! So don't give up on your twin. Ride some different twin shapes with concave variations and you won't want to got back to a thruster anytime soon...promise you that. Long post...just stoked on Twins! EnjoY

 

Hilly let me know how your weekend goes. I have to work Be safe!

 

I have to agree with 42 and banx... The only thing I can add is if your fish has a double concave out the back, like a lot of them do these days, you can get away with a more even weight distribution between your front and back foot. The old flat-to-vee fish worked best off the front foot, for sure. But even a lot of the traditional fish... with twin keels and wide, deep swallows... are using concaves today, and I think it's an improvement. I've found that you can initiate your turn from your back foot, then shift your weight forward through the turn to maintain speed and drive all the way around... which is what I think you're having a hard time doing. Shortboards scrub speed off through a turn... twins conserve it.

So check your board. Put a straight edge across the bottom and see what's going on.

 

the correct term is twin fin not two fin......

 

and hank warner is a freakn genius to boot,never had one of his twinnies but his thrusters are awesome. can only imagine his fish

 

you probably have some vee out the back of the board instead of concave. i don't think i've ever seen a fish w/ a totally flat bottom. like someone suggested already, take a straight edge or level to the bottom of your board to see what you've got going on.

 

i'm genuinely confused by this post.

 

yep...if i weren't such a bonzer fiend, i'd still be riding them!! unfortunately, after i started riding bonzers, my twin keel fish felt slow!

 

im still pretty new to surfing but these days i ride a WRV twinfin, that you see everywhere in the mid-atlantic. its a pretty flat to slight vee with two FCS fins. i find that i can really crank the front of the board as long as im past the drop. i dont know if its fish in general, but this guy pearls very easily with hardly any nose rocker. i found that foot position matters less than overall weight distribution. the only thing ive noticed is if the waves arent right, it becomes much harder to drop in on this thing when guys on shortboards and even funboards sometimes wont have an issue.

 

One of the few refinements of the original design that have added performance to the traditional fish is some flip and slight vee in the nose. Helps address that pearling issue that almost all flat-rockered boards suffer from. I've been doing it for a few years now on a lot of different designs that are otherwise flat, short, and wide.

 

i got so excited i went and got me a slightly used twinny yesterday. 5 9 by 20 3/4 by 2 5/8 old style template with some more modern bottom contour made by a loke go to guy.
rode it today and yesterday and boy oh boy is that some fun.i spent all these years hatin on em cuz i couldnt ride em but now im convinced.

 

hilly post #11 on this thread = gruvi. there's at least two of them

 

oh,and rode my 2 fin classic fish today and thought about 42's post and it helped a lot,riding up front,using rails,thanks again,good day for it

 

Just watch Donavon surf his twins... MENTAL!