Winter board?

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by cmurr73, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. cmurr73

    cmurr73 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 21, 2011
    I live in NJ and just got 5/5 wetsuit for the winter and feel little heavy on my 6'4 Channel Isl./ whip. I saw a nice 6'10 but was told that'd be too big. I just got back into it and am okay surfer, weigh about 190lb and stand close to 6ft. I realize there is more to it then length but wanted to see what you others do/think. I rode a thicker 6'4 other day and saw significant paddle difference. Is 6'10 too big? Will it be harder to duck dive? I started long boarding this summer and love the paddle out/ wave catching ease but still like short boards and don't like long boarding on bigger days. Loving life again thanks to surf. Thanks.
     
  2. escsurfer

    escsurfer Well-Known Member

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    Nov 21, 2010
    Alot of it has to do with "volume" A 6'6 narrow pintail will have alot less "volume" thus less paddle power than say a 6'2"fish with a big squash tail and wide nose. I'd say aim for a thicker board and dont go to much bigger than 6'6 or 6'8 or you start losing manuerverability. Check the current boards dimensions and try an add an inch in width and 1/4 in thickness and you wont even need to touch the length.
     

  3. Harhar

    Harhar Well-Known Member

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    Sep 21, 2011
    don't worry bout it, with 5/5 you'll swweat off the lbs and everything will be fine.
     
  4. West Surfboards

    West Surfboards Member

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    Oct 11, 2011
    I shape boards for the RANDAZZO INDUSTRIES label & WEST Surboards, if you are looking for a replacement for your WHIP, i would suggest our BIG JOE model not sure how tall you are but I weight a similar weight, so look 4 something in the : 6'2" to 6'6" x 19.75 to 20.75 x 2.63 to 2.75. the thing is with the 5mm paddling is tough as hell so you want width volume for stability. You can find this board at: 7St Surf Shop, Eastern Lines, UNSOUND, and KONA Surf Shops. Or Contact me Direct and we can Build you a Custom Board.
    http://www.swellinfo.com/forum/album.php?albumid=441&attachmentid=4386
     
  5. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    The Whip looks to me to be really round through the middle, but I've never measured one. If it's already wide, I wouldn't add too much more width - I think an inch is too much. If you go to 6'6 and add some thickness through the middle it will give you the added volume you're looking for... but you still have to paddle hard... it's still a shortboard. I'm 190 and I ride a 6'6 x 2 9/16, but not in surf that's under chest high.

    Your other option, if you're going custom, is to talk rocker and nose width with your shaper, which is second to volume in paddling effect.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2011
  6. DaMook

    DaMook Well-Known Member

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    Dec 30, 2009
    get a fish or a longboard if your concerned about paddling dont fall for a gimmicky board shape.
     
  7. exilenj

    exilenj Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2009
    bump up an 1/8 on the width and itll cover the couple of extra pounds... 1/4 if you just want to make it easy... i love the gimmicky shapes.. its good to change things up
     
  8. surfer23451

    surfer23451 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 17, 2009
    You might try a CI Flyer that is a little bigger. I ride a 6'6" X 20" X 2.75 and have a very good time on it - and no problems duck diving it. I am only 5'7" and 145.
     
  9. Rockyn

    Rockyn Member

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    Mar 4, 2011
    Don't listen to what other people tell you about it being too big or too small or too anything. In actuality, most dudes on shorter boards are smaller than us and the ones that are of the same build or bigger that are riding shorter boards are extremely fit. So don't think that you have to have a tiny ass board or you wont have any mobility. I'm 5'11 185lbs and I find anything under a 6'6" to hinder my ability to catch waves when I'm not at my optimum fitness levels. Its all relative. Would you like to be able to catch more waves, or be more mobile when you do catch them. For six years I only rode 8' boards and when I came down to a 7'2" it felt like a 6'4". My current 6'4" is epoxy so it has more float to it and even with the extra mobility given from the epoxy, sometimes its still hard for me to get into faster waves with its shorter length relative to my personal fitness and what the ocean is doing.

    In short, with your size and weight, you can make a bigger board move in ways that someone who is 145 lbs or even 175 lbs simply cannot. Go for the board if it feels right for you.
     
  10. DrBill

    DrBill Active Member

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    Dec 20, 2008
    It's all about the volume. Some shapers are starting to identify the volume on board specs.
     
  11. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    I agree with Rockyn. Im 6'2", 195 to 210lbs throughtout the year. I ride an 8ft, shaped like a short board... just for bigger heavier guys. I cant even pretend to be able to surf my 6'6" anymore. I have a 7'3" also and it feels too short sort of...
    My 8ft is just as manuverable as any board I've surfed.
     
  12. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Volume comes in all shapes and sizes. It's not the only variable. I'm closer to 50 than 40, I'm not extremely fit, but I own only my own shapes, and I can tell you first hand that you can stay in the game longer, riding shorter, more high performance boards, if you make some design adjustments. My boards help me surf.

    Most industry shapers make great boards... most likely some the best in the world. But they don't know you. Have a conversation with a local shaper and maybe you'll find exactly what you're looking for.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2011
  13. exilenj

    exilenj Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2009
    your wrong if you think volume is the sole factor in paddling with a given shape.. there's way more to it then that.. and some are confusing the question of adding some width/height to your board to compensate the extra weight in the winter with getting an entirely different shape let alone a fish/longboard. doesnt make sense.
     
  14. Bodhi Reagan

    Bodhi Reagan Active Member

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    Sep 2, 2011
    I'm 6'3, 195-200lbs and I rock a 6'4" Matt kechele stub fish and a 6'8" squish all year, using each board depending on the conditions. The fish is my go to board though, and i have no problem at all floating it even with the suit.
     
  15. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    Sounds like a personal preferance to me- you gotta ride what YOU like! If you like it- get it! You may end up really liking the 6'10 and you will be able to turn it and duck dive- specially if you have been riding a longboard. A more important question is- what kind of shape is the 6'10...
     
  16. cmurr73

    cmurr73 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 21, 2011
    I would have to take another look at dimensions on the board. Will try to asap. it was basic short board shape. he had two 6'10s one swallow tai that seem to have narrower (slightly) nose, and one fuller nose and squash tail (maybe square can't remember). I was leaning toward the latter but maybe the swallow tail is gonna be faster? Besides being a winter board, it might be my board on bigger days.. i still feel like there are so many other choices and dont want to get stuck into only 2 options. the Price was attractive $395 for a Shell, shop going out of business.
     
  17. cmurr73

    cmurr73 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 21, 2011
    anyone ever by a greenlight board?
     
  18. UncleKev

    UncleKev Active Member

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    Feb 24, 2010
    I buy material from there all the time there real good guys over there. I would definatly buy a board from them if i wasnt making them myself.
     
  19. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Never bought one, but I know a lot about their boards, and have ridden a number of them. You can too... just stop by and take a few for a test drive. Basically you can custom anything from blank, stringer, cloth, etc.... right on up to the shape you're looking for. Traditional designs and materials or funky and exotic. Your choice.
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2011
  20. travy

    travy Well-Known Member

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    Jul 3, 2010
    i'm pushing 40 and don't like the sinking feeling of paddling a traditional shortboard as much as i used to. even when i'm in good shape it's difficult to arch your back and motorboat like you need to for long sessions.

    so for the last 2 years i've been loving an oversized groveler. boards like the rocket, biscuit, nugget, etc. that people tell you to ride 6-8 inches shorter than normal, i ride at a normal length and have no problem making it go. loads more volume throughout, flatter rocker, wider templates but still not so huge it feels like a fun shape seems to be the right formula for me.

    people much younger and fitter will tell you to buy one of these boards under 6 feet but push it up to 6'4 or 6'6 and enjoy the ride.