yes the jerseyites are annoying as crap, but in some strange, childish way they are entertaining. kinda of like watching strange animals in a zoo.
South Jetty Bill say's I'm a genius. Born and raised in Wilmington/WB, NC. Proof that North Carolinians are not stupid or hicks.
It doesn't. We have central jersey in the middle. The counties determine the north, central, and south borders.
the raritan bridges separates north from central, but certainly does not divide north from south. north and central share the same tv , sports teams and newspapers with NYC. South Jersey (along the coast at least) is sperated by the mullica river. Everything changes from TV, sports teams and newspapers which are shared with Philly. So, Exit 50 is the border of north/central and true south jersey, again along the coast. There are media lines across the rest of the state as well, but I am not sure where they run, but the mullica river along the coast is part of a media boundary.
DaMook, agreed. I meant more like a cultural divide. You guys/gals down south don't believe us when we say there are tremendous cultural differences within NJ's borders, but seriously, there are. The guido kooks are for real and we (actual residents of the shore area/south Jersey) laugh at their expense all summer long. The year round residents of NJ's shore towns do not have that accent and do not behave like those kooks on that show. Honest. NJ has some gnarly dirty areas, particularly around Newark Airport, the front door to NJ and the first thing visitors see (bad first impression). Most of NJ however, is nice and fairly clean. I know because I live here and I have traveled enough to know the difference. But please, do try to further convince us of how your Atlantic is different from our Atlantic.
to OP, you really want to miss out on the NJers? (pronounced, nijjers) In fact a book should be written about it... Newark is one of NY's cogs-as Camden is to Philly. In essence, NJ does have a bit of a cultural identity crisis because of these two major cities' news/media/sports outlets and their affects on NJ's perspectives. But apparently, if you live in Mercer County, near Trenton, you get the best of both worlds. You get both media outlets from NY and Philly (see below) I guess the boundary runs almost NorthEast to SouthEast slicing the state in half diagonally and definitly culturally. TV has a profound effect. Ever hear of the Mummers Parade? If your from North NJ you haven't. But, if you're from south you sure have. Water ice vs italian ice, lunchmeat vs cold cuts, hoagie vs sub, the list goes on. There has to be a book about it somewhere. I'd have to say it's totally split. In the Mercer County area you have channels 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, and 10 which are all ABC/NBC/CBS/Fox affiliates out of New York and Philadelphia. Depending on which sports scores you want, tune in accordingly Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-...-area-ny-philly-toms-river.html#ixzz1oOB7hPJx
Actually Delaware has very clean beaches. http://www.nrdc.org/media/2011/110629.asp I believe this is a function of population density and the lack of major cities or rivers out-flowing on Delmarva shores. Having surfed Jersey quite a bit during my college years (1997-2001) I have to admit there were some funky water days and some days where the water was super clear and clean. People often have the misconception that turbidity or visibility define clean water. In drinking water it does, but in ocean water the particles can be caused by wave action and just offshore the water can be very clear. Ask any offshore fisherman. However, a funky tasting water after a rain is probably not a good thing!
He prob has better things to do? Though after my notion that he sat around in a smoke filled room going thru swell data day and night was shattered a couple of weeks ago, maybe he will. Besides when will it stop, before long people will want it seperated by county, the inmates should not rule the asylum.
This thread pretty much proves that the majority like to argue with people from different geographic areas, so my guess is any thoughts of breaking up the mid atlantic forum vanished about 10 pages ago.
IDK, being from VB I have to travel a lot for waves. I usually head south to the Outer Banks but sometimes north to MD, NJ, or sometimes NY. I can honestly say in my years of surfing I have never had an issue in any of the places I have gone. The more popular spots on the Outer Banks are usually full of non-locals anyhow and the lesser-known spots are usually empty but I never had issues being from VB surfing there. If I am ever in conversation in the lineups up north people immediately recognize my southern drawl and know Im not local. Still never had an issue. Im not even that great of a surfer either, I think it is a respect thing, or maybe I have never ran into any of the badasses on this forum. The only localism I have ever experienced has been on computers. Computer screens are one thing and lineups are another.
Don't really know why this thread got so out of hand. I never said anything about not liking certain areas. It's just that the region doesn't really mesh well geographically. Not being socially cohesive is a completely different argument and that can happen anywhere, even within the same city.
I may have started taking this thread off the rails, but I actually think your initial idea wasn't bad. it was just soo hard to resist responding to the "get the Jersey guys outta the room" thing - even if I know that wasn't what you meant.
The forum was initially broken into local areas: Delmarva, New Jersey, Virginia/OBX. This didn't work out well, and actually created less user involvement rather then more.