Gas prices..

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by surfislife, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. surfislife

    surfislife Well-Known Member

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    Nov 17, 2011
    (1)So do you guys think the gas price will hit $5.00 this summer?
    (2)What would you do about it if you were the president?
     
  2. somuchsurf

    somuchsurf Well-Known Member

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    Jan 7, 2011
    1. Yes
    2. Nothing. Gas/oil prices are determined by global markets. It is a finite commodity that is becoming more scarce and harder to pull out of the ground. Demand from developing nations is outpacing supply and driving the prices up. Nothing a president can do would reverse that. Ask them, it's all a political ploy. IMO the only way to get lower energy costs is to seriously start developing renewable sources and gradually ween ourselves off of oil dependency.
     

  3. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    this.

    prices are already nearing $5 in places like hawaii & california. the idea that the president has any kind of control over the price of free-market commodities is ridiculous. the only thing the president can do is encourage people to buy/drive more fuel efficient vehicles &/or use public transportation more. i'm reasonably certain that i'll live to see $10/gal. or higher.
     
  4. richp12

    richp12 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 13, 2009
    yes definitely
    i would give every mofo who buys a hybrid a huge tax break
     
  5. sandfly

    sandfly Active Member

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    Nov 3, 2011
    1. Yes
    2. Invade a country that has oil (Iran, Venezuela, Canada...)
     
  6. Honey Holes

    Honey Holes Well-Known Member

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    Dec 29, 2011
    Yes most likely.

    President has no control on that. US has to work with other countries where there is enormous amounts of oil like venezuela. The gas there is very cheap. Or progress faster and rely on something else. The brains and technology is out there. Just has to all be put together. And oil companies have to stop paying off people when an idea comes up that could work and help people's pockets like ours.
     
  7. hinmo24t

    hinmo24t Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2012
    alleviate the problem by drilling and refining here and really exploring our fossil fuel resources (which btw the numbers thrown out like 2% are complete bs)/dont dismiss pipeline deal (which china got in a global competing market and will burn), reducing dependancy on pathetic foreign countries/markets, and in turn getting some jobs domestically through these efforts.
     
  8. marknel83

    marknel83 Well-Known Member

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    Jul 19, 2009
    I fixed the problem myself. I bought a new honda fit sport. I can sleep in the back. Fit up to a 7'9" board inside (when seats are in long mode). And still get 38 mpg.
     
  9. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    Love the car.. got mine almost 6 years ago. Can easily get two shortboards and a passenger in there. Have you slept in the back? I tried it once after too much to drink and wouldn't ever do it again.
     
  10. Topo

    Topo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2011
    1- I doubt it- Supply & demand- a lot of supply should keep it even.
    2- Depends; Democrat- I have little to no effect even though THIS PRESIDENT said he would not mind 5 or 6 dollar gallon gas. His Energy Sec said he would like to see 8 or 9. Not my words- its what they said.
    Republican- It's my fault, my friends & evil oil companies. I would love to see who's fault this wouuld be if a Libetarian were elected.
     
  11. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    when are the gdamn garage tinkering home taught scientist going to invent that engine that will run on water???? Lord knowes the publicly traded company wall street owned scientists wont be allowed to tell the public about how they've had engines that run efficiently on water for years now. lol...
    doc brown would have def. solved the problem by now...
     
  12. hinmo24t

    hinmo24t Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2012
    they've had hydro run engines but i believe they were deemed seriously unsafe because of the way they exploded on impact... the thing is, alternative fuels are a work in progress and should be be left alone by the private sector and free market. this governmental push in this arena is a problem and a risky investment (have any of you heard of Solyndra? the eighth largest bankruptcy which 500 Billion of tax money went towards) in an economy thoroughly in dept (a serious problem when mixed with job figures and for which we/our children will see reflected in taxes and interest rates for our entire lives). We need to invest in what we know will provide the fuel for our economy/gas prices we all still use, and as a kicker it will get a chunk of folks working again.
     
  13. hinmo24t

    hinmo24t Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2012
    and i meant left alone for the private/free market to work on based of supply/demand principles... in case that was misread or phrased wrong in my last post.
     
  14. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    My 1998 toyota corolla does that. Fits my 9 foot longboard inside with the seats folded, 2-3 shortboards with a passenger and gets 35 mpg. My previous car, a 1987 Honda CRX did the the same and got 45 mpg. My point is fuel efficent technological advances are a joke. We are no more efficient than we were 25 years ago, unless $30k hybrids getting the same milage as my 1987 honda is some kind of advance.
     
  15. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    Part of the problem is that any advances in fuel efficiency have been completely offset by cars getting bigger in the last 20 years. Throughout most of the 2000s, you'd be hard pressed to find a car with decent cargo capacity without getting an SUV. With the Fit (and several other cars that came out around the same time), the fuel efficient hatchback thankfully made a comeback. There is even a Fit hybrid available in Europe and Asia that gets 60mpg and costs about 20k.

    It's all still just a drop in the bucket, though.
     
  16. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    i hate gas prices being $3.79 in wilmington, nc. instead of it costing me $75 to fill up my truck it costs me $80 and i cant make as many trips up to chapel hill to see friends and family as often due to gas being so much.
     
  17. MDSurfer

    MDSurfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    . . . Prius . . .
     
  18. EHBS

    EHBS Active Member

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    May 27, 2010
    gas out on eastern long island is pushing $4.20 at some places costs me $120 to fill my truck
     
  19. spongedude

    spongedude Well-Known Member

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    Feb 28, 2010
    you are being drilled baby, drilled...

    it's a congress/subsidization issue if it's anything. you can advocate all the domestic drilling you want but it will have no effect on what you pay. as it is, we are exporting oil that we produce domestically and the proposed pipeline's express purpose was partially to export. as for invasion, cheney told us we'd LOWER fuel prices by invading iraq. sure worked out didn't it? venezuela has low prices because the fuel is subsidized by govt (as it is in other small oil producers like ecuador). remember that when confronted with profits vs cost the domestic producers claim that it is the global market that controls their price, which means no president can change the price...if you believe what they claim.

    how about we simply stop subsidizing the most profitable companies in history? that may not lower prices but maybe we'd be paying them less (through taxes) to screw us in the a$$. no president can lower these prices, despite what the newt claims ($2.50 a gallon...hahaha), but maybe we can stop giving them money....

    btw, f-1 starts this weekend
     
  20. GnarActually

    GnarActually Well-Known Member

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    Sep 30, 2007
    The thing that tick's me off is that people blamed Bush all the time over gas prices yet when Obama is President everyone says it's not his fault. Now I'm not a Bush fan nor an Obama fan but thats just not right.
    Gas just shouldn't be traded on the commodities. It's that simple. I mean my roommate even made a contraption where he has a big water tank like you find in a office building, filled with a half a gallon of gas, along with a hose thats connected to the engine that when the engine runs, the hose full of air churns the little bit of gas and allows the engine to run off gas fumes, not the gas itself. He has a 1966 ford pickup that got around 13miles per hour now with his invention it gets roughly 35 and still some room with improvement.
    Now, obviously he's stoked on his invention, but whilst doing research for his patent(he was very serious about it, and even his chemistry professor at uncw was shocked over his invention) he found out many people already tried to patent it, yet the government or the major gas companies bought their inventions for millions of millions of dollars. fishy ey? If gas wasn't traded as a stock and our gov't cared about us it would be $1.50 easy.