Flex is a result of a step deck, but the purpose is to strategically place volume while not affecting performance. And you couldn't be more wrong about waves being the same on both coasts.
Please explain to me the difference in waves from east coast to west coast. In my opinion for every wave on the west coast there is an identical on the east coast.
The theory behind a stepdeck is to make the nose rocker flatten when nose riding and to swing the nose around quicker since there is less swing weight up front. As for there is no difference in waves on the west and east this is not true. I surfed California and every year I surf on the west coast of Mexico, these waves are totally different, they are more relaxed open faced waves, perfect for a flatter rocker board like Bing, Hobie, Hansen etc. Here in Jersey where I lived my whole life and surfed is a whole different animal. steeper pitchier waves most of the time, the swell never lines up and you have to take what you can get. This is where you need a east coast designed board with more rocker to handle the steeper drops and late take offs. I've been surfing for 39 years and building boards for over 10 years, not just shaping, building them start to finish whether it's poly or epoxy and I do full restorations on all the old time classic boards. I think I'm more than qualified
great shop to get wax or maybe a leash....but if you want a custom board...well lets just say I and many others have had less then good experiences there
Are you being serious in that question? Size, frequency, type of swell, the difference is the Pacific and the Atlantic. In your opinion what are the identical waves to Maverick's, Rincon, Black's (Just to name a few)? Also to the OP, I would definitely check Craigslist. While it's cool to support your local shops they can be kind of pricey.
Surf shops make very little money off surfboards. Actually, when you consider overhead costs and rack space they practically make nothing on them. The boards are what draw you in to buy other goods with 100%+ mark-up. The highest mark up on a shortboard I know is $125, which works out to around 25 - 30%. Go directly to the shaper, build a relationship, and save a few dollars. Then go to your local surf shop, oogle some boards and buy some wax, a leash and a T-shirt.
So is that to say boards built on the west coast are not good for the east coast? I understand the philosophy of where boards can be tailored to say a wave in jersey, but in the grand scheme of things boards made in California seem to have been working on the east coast for years. When you travel the east coast the waves vary, a rocky point break in the north isn't the same as a heaving beach break in the south. Point being that there are similarities in waves. East coast shapers like to think that west coast boards are taboo for our waves, while frankly they are not. Tom there is no doubt in my mind that you can tailor a board to the waves in jersey, i firmly believe you have that ability. But if someone wants to hop on a bing/hobie/etc. then thats their choice. Its just annoying at times when every post seems like a sales pitch to buy from one of the local jersey shapers.
+1 For Beach House those guys are awesome. Too bad that you weren't around this past weekend they had a swap meet with a lot of really nice boards at some incredible prices! Craigslist is also a good resource for finding some good deals as well!
I am about to graduate college and will be collecting my security deposit on my rent for the year (idk how) and would like to buy a log to get me through the summer. I do prefer getting a custom shape to support the local shapers but if I took this route the board probably would not be done until August-September This was the first part of his question and I answered it with my turn around time a few board pics and peoples response was positive. I never said anything negative about west coast boards, it's a free country, ride what you love, love what you ride. This annoying sales pitch thread got me 1 custom board order so far so thank you
yep, not to get one shaped, just to buy one at Spellbinders. Tom Eaton (Island Style) is the man. How many can say they have been shaping since the 60's. All of the younger shapers around here consult with him. He still rips on his longboard as well. Ron has money, so he will drop the price. My personal experience with Ron is that you have alot of "wiggle room" with the price. I bought a brand new Hansen Noserider there for $650. Talked him down $250.
Good thread guys and I would def goto Mahady if I were in the market for a long board!! I have surfed in NJ for 27yrs and have been travelling for 15 yrs 2 trips a yr mostly to central America. I can tell you the waves are different for sure and the Jersey guys can rip anywhere they go!! Our waves like Tom said are steeper than most places on West coast so we can ride boards shape defferently usually with less vol and more rocker etc.. The west coast guys like boards with more volume relaxed rockers because the majority of waves are softer and from a longer period.. Kinda piontless to try and explain to someone so ignorant that they think there is no difference but having some coffee and reading this post I decided to chime in. BTW just got back from a killer trip in NIca and yes at one spot I did have to borrow a stepup with high vol to paddle into the waves something we would never see here in NJ unless squan was macking out with a 18 sec east swell! Mahady your board like sic giving me toughts on actually getting a log! Thinking 8'6" round tail fioled out for performance with a focus on wave catching for the big S we get..
Thank you Bauer for the compliment. 8'6" x 22" x 2 3/4" High performance foil and more rocker for later take offs and to sit in the pocket better plus a little something special on the bottom to tie everything together with a nice hp single fin I made this one and surfed it in 8' to 12" mackin Laniakea on one of my trips to Oahu
Unless you are bull****ting about your experience to date, you ain't ever gonna be doing an eighth of what you wrote you desire to do. Be realistic and have fun knowing you can ride a wave face well enough.
Just because you are a completely inept, seasonal surfing weekend warrior does not mean everyone else getting started is the same....
However, since you are an aggressive little fellow, I decided to block all postings from you so you won't be able to irritate me with all your small passive aggressive writings anymore.
Translation: "I got called out and it hit too close to home, so I'm going to hold my hands over my ears and repetitively scream 'I can't hear you!'"