I like going fast. I like to straight up the wave, turn close 180 degrees (or more) on a dime and come back down. I like to fit three in turns in on a waist high wave. I like to throw backside buckets one after another. Do I have to pump it somes times just to milk enough speed up to do one good turn- yeah I do and it's more fun than just standing there when I take the top off that mushy slop. I like knowing that if I ran into Luke, Joel or Mick (pros about my size) they might say "that board looks sick mate- you wanna switch with me for a few waves?"
What's with the passive-aggressive thread loaded with thinly veiled scorn for longboarders? The longboard thread definitely did not take that tone, so why are you getting so defensive about it?
it didn't start out that way but it went there right about page three- before that it was a pleasant thread and I hoped to have something similiar here instead of turning that one into a melee- and it's a running interwebz joke to start similiarly titled threads... don't ya know?
Yeah I know that. I may well have misinterpreted the tone of your thread, but Sounded like the whole thread started out defensive with a passive aggressive jab against longboarders who "take the top off that mushy slop" and "just stand there." I have no gripe about whatever you find more fun or less fun, but I thought the implications in later part of that sentence were at least a little mean-spirited.
I'm saying the "I longboard" thread started out as a celebration of what he likes but when on about page three I saw this: I started this one for funsies instead of turning his thread into a donnybrook. I can have more fun than I know what to do with on a wave well under 4 feet on my slop killer. When I'm pumping on one of the weaker ones on a two foot day and hear some old fat load talking about how he "doesn't think that looks fun" I think: great, your dumpy ass couldn't catch this wave or pump down the line anyway and when you do catch one like it on your log you just stand there anyway which doesn't look like fu to me. The saddest thing about longboarding is most everyone who rides one doesn't do so with any skill; they ride the logs because they can't ride anything else and the guys who ride them well are the ones who are in shape and athletic enough to ride a shortboard.
people are asses... ride what you want and don't give a crap about what anyone else is doing, just do you....
Yeah what the hell is wrong with riding whatever you like and think is fun. I think both of the threads are as useless as a 10'6" gun in WB shore break.
I think you're absolutely right. Longboarding at a high level takes as much skill as surfing a shortboard at a high level. Standing there on either one is sad. And you're right... the best longboarders I know are good shortboarders too, and they're athletic and in shape no matter their age.
BronzeWhaler I bet you are like most "shortboarders" around here are - not even close to having the ability to properly ride what they bring to the water. People who work in surf shops want to make a sale, and risk insulting the fragile ego of the walk-in customer by advising a less performance oriented shape----well that just doesn't put food on the table. A log is the call when it gets big and super (for here) long period
2 things: 1. i can't think of a single place i've ever surfed where big, long period swell called for a log. a step-up maybe, but not a log. 2. a GOOD surf shop employee will steer you toward whatever type of board will work for your ability level & the manner in which you want to surf. contrary to the seemingly popular opinion, not all surf shop employees are brainless, clueless hucksters trying to sell you the most expensive board you don't need. you, dave, are letting your ignorance show again.
I don't buy my boards from "surf shop employees"; I call my shaper in San Clemente and he ships them to me.
Dave, i totally agree with you. I might ride a longboard three times a year or so, but it will almost always be mid winter, hard offshores, long period swell dragging on the bars and breaking too fast (for me) to make sections on a shortboard, or do any turns anyway. Obviously this day isnt anything big, but its mid-winter, cold water and air, 20+ offshores, 12-14 second stuff unloading on the bars way too quick. Making waves mainly because of the log.
I don't know what to tell you, sucks to be you then I guess. really. Who? I used to live out there, well, more accurately I was TDY at Pendleton, so maybe I know him????
Mitchell thats pretty much it. Anything over 12 seconds and rideable in NJ and the usual read on the waves goes out the window, so to compensate I always just go for the log. I have a Fly/Baymore custom shaped super heavy glass, three redwood stringers, tucked in tail with wood tailblock & rocker'd out nose and tail, works awesome.