Opinions on the best way to repair this ding

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Wordsarewisdom, Sep 12, 2012.

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  1. Sep 12, 2012 #1
    Wordsarewisdom

    Wordsarewisdom Member

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    So I'm fairly certain I got this sucker riding the white water back in to shore on my stomach and then slammed into a shell or rock. The actual ding is approx. 2\" in diameter, but there is a depression about 3\" in diameter. I'm concerned that if I do this repair wrong it could have considerable impact on performance considering its located between one of the side and center fins.

    I was thinking I should prepare a filler batch with some qcell and put that over the entire depression to create a flat surface again and then patch it once dried and sanded down. Would this be the best option? Or should i not bother with the filler and just patch over because it wont affect the performance? Other options?
    Any and all opinions and input are appreciated! Thanks everyone!

    Ps. I don't wanna get it professionally repaired. Takes away from the learning experience and its too damn costly :D
     

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  3. Sep 12, 2012 #2
    Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

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    Your qcell filler, sand flat, patch with cloth, hotcoat (brush on resin), sand final will work fine. Putting on some matching paint over the sanded qcell step will look nicer. I've carried a board right into home depot and had them scan the board to match the paint almost perfectly, and they sold me a half - pint (smallest they would sell) for like $8.
     
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  5. Sep 12, 2012 #3
    LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

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    Mitchell nailed it... Sand, fill, sand, paint, patchES, fair, hotcoat, sand.

    Or... make incisions in such a way that the glass flaps back, and fill underneath. Laminate the flaps of glass back down, patch, hotcoat, sand.
     
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  6. Sep 12, 2012 #4
    Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

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    What kind of paint from Home depot?

    Also - this is a big ding, but one of the easier ones to fix. Qcell will save it.
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2012 #5
    Wordsarewisdom

    Wordsarewisdom Member

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Thanks for the input everyone! I filled up the entire depressed area with a filler mix and will sand it tomorrow morning. I like the idea of the paint seeing as its a damn big white spot there now.

    I'm going to need 2 patches most likely seeing how most of this is solved with filler. Ive always put the larger patches on first. Am I right in doing so or should I be putting on the smaller ones first actually?

    And as far as hotcoating goes...I basically just rough sand the patched area lightly and then paint a coat over it to smoothen the patch for the final sanding right?

    I've been repairing my own dings for a year now and have had no real outside input so y'all are extremely helpful. Thanks again!
     
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  8. Sep 13, 2012 #6
    Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

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    If im using two layers of cloth for a repair i put the smaller patch under so the larger one covers over the edge of the smaller one...it seems smoother. you got it right on the hotcoat. concentrate on sanding the cloth edges to bring them down flat, and make sure to scuff up the surface for an inch or so out onto the surrounding undamaged areas or else the hotcoat can fail to bond properly to the old glass. I like 40-60 grit paper for this step...SCRATCHY. Then finer and finer grits after hotcoating so the finished repair looks nice. 80 to 120 to 150 then maybe 220 or whatever is laying around.

    As far as paint goes, waterbased acrylic seems to be compatible with most every kind of resin. Since your board is a pretty basic blue, places like Michaels, or a big art/hobby store will have a close enough color.
     
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  9. Sep 13, 2012 #7
    leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

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    get a swellinfo DOH greenman sticker and seal that baby right up!
     
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  10. Sep 13, 2012 #8
    Wordsarewisdom

    Wordsarewisdom Member

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    So after i paint the area lightly i sould also lightly sand the area before glassing right? Im just worried about sanding off the paint job lol
     
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  11. Sep 13, 2012 #9
    LBCrew

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    Glass right over the paint.
     
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  12. Sep 13, 2012 #10
    Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

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  13. Sep 14, 2012 #11
    LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

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    That guy does a nice job. Obviously a pro... and that board looks new, so it's worth the extra effort. The only thing I do differently is confine the repair to a much smaller area around the ding. Squaring out the damaged area (he uses a router) is key, and not many people seem to do that around here.
     
    LBCrew, Sep 14, 2012
    LBCrew, Sep 14, 2012
  14. Oct 16, 2012 #12
    bharris

    bharris Member

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    Honestly man you should just get a new board. The peace of mind of having your surfboard in the best possible condition is priceless. You dont want to be 300 yards offshore and in big conditions and have your board taking on water. Just my opinion though.
     
    bharris, Oct 16, 2012
    bharris, Oct 16, 2012
  15. Oct 16, 2012 #13
    darippah

    darippah Well-Known Member

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    Bahahahahaha
     
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  16. Oct 17, 2012 #14
    jcyr2

    jcyr2 Well-Known Member

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    Bharris I'll take all of your dinged boards if you want... So that way you can be worry free pm me
     
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