Question for Jerseyites

i live in LBI and run past the beach checker every time i surf or skim. if im just going to the beach to chill then i say my mom is coming with the badges. it works every time. Seriously, badge checkers dont care. The only reason that you may run into a stubborn one is because the checker who sells the most tickets gets a $500 bonus. whoopdy freakin doo. but i only had one situation where the checker gave me a hard time (we were yelling at each other for several minutes) but I just ran past her into the ocean. She actually made the lifeguard paddle out and tell us to go in. Luckily i know the lifeguard so he let me go. the law is pointless and rediculous for locals

 

how smart is this. a town hires a staff of 50 plus people for the summer to collect money for that town. am i the only one who sees the problem with that whole plan??

 

I get what Tbing is talking about. We go to a south jersey beach, one of which you don't need tags and even though the town has life guards and a beach clean up crew, we often end up picking up trash as well. Of course if more people didn't leave their trash behind, then you'd only really have to worry about paying life guards. I never heard that in OCM you have to pay a 3% hotel/motel tax to pay for beach and community fees. That seems to be a good solution, though some small NJ towns don't even have hotels or board walks...just houses, beaches and tag people.

 

dog days of summer

most places are 9-5 so for the best waves you don't need a badge anyway, i've never paid for one in my life so i don't care but from bayhead to lavalette for 6 miles each oceanfront houses are paying like 20,000 in property taxes a year! if these towns are charging an additional fee where is all the money going?? and everyone here that is really really obsessed with the "i am local" rhetoric brick township has discounted badges for local residents so wear them with pride. . .and the badge checker girls are really hot so i haven't the heart to run past them without a badge. . .only 3.5 weeks to go

 

Casinos have nothing to do with NJ. They are privately owned so basically any profit they turn for the beach is going to Atlantic City.

 

Yoooo ook I finally had to sign in due to the nonsense I've been reading. . . 50 salaries??? Shut up dude. . . You are sooo naive and don't have a clue what you're talking about. . . You obviously don't pay taxes nor own a home because otherwise you would know that Manasquan is a part of Monmouth County. . . So if you did your homework you would know the tax dollars come form the county to pay the lifeguards not the individual town. . . Hence why New Jersey has the ONLY strip of beach (from Sandy Hook down to Cape May) that you have to PAY to get on the beach in the ENTIRE U.S.!!! and yes we have the MOST corrupt system in Jersey and I'm tired of the finds paying to park when I'm a local and pay taxes alll year long. . . F*** Jersey. . . I love the people I know but the winter suits and the government can eat a D***. . . I'm heading south for warmer water and free beach accesss WITH lifeguards. . . Because other states know whats up. . . Wait till you can't afford to live here when you move out of mommies house ***got!

 

Yeah, well, NJ doesn't have tax on clothes, no annual tax on motor vehicles, and the cheapest gas taxes in the country. It also has some of the best schools, the only statewide transit system, lowest crime, best public services and highest household income in the country. You get what you pay for.

Maryland doesn't get anything like the hordes that descend on New Jersey beaches. You guys have 9 miles of ocean beaches. There's not that much more in VA that's actually accessible. It takes 4 hours to get to the Outer Banks from Raleigh. Compare that to NJ with 120 miles of coastline and ALL of it except for Sandy Hook and Island Beach State Park is heavily urbanized. It also has 25 million people living within 100 miles of it. OC, MD has about 1 million people living within 100 miles.

When your beaches turn in to the biggest city in the country every summer you can't just put up some dirt parking lots and a few signs and call it a day.

I used to go out almost every morning in Long Branch before work and I always had to hang my bag on the fence to keep it from getting run over by the beach rake. Those things are expensive to buy and to operate. Lifeguards are expensive. Someone has to pay. In places with a lot of hotels like Atlantic City or Wildwood, you don't pay to get on the beach. The rest of the shore doesn't have hotels so they have to raise the money somehow. Better with user fees than with more taxes. If you live in a beach town in NJ you just go to your borough hall in the spring and buy your season pass for $20 and be done with it. The bennies can pay $6 a day if they want to or they can buy a season pass for $25.

 

Amen....So am i man...in a few years i'm taking off to FL for good. Let the Island hopping begin!

 

I'm answering for Belmar, NJ

They are for about 9-10a, until 3:30 - 4p is the times they usually check. If I go after work I get there at about 4:15p, no need for a badge.

Yes if you get a season badge, no if you get a daily. I have 2 season badges. Cost about $60, i think they are about $100 for non-locals. I'm pretty sure most locals pay more than $60, but my gma has lived in Belmar for 60 years, she gets me the badges (I give her the money for them).

If you are carrying a surf board or a bodyboard with legit gear, if you get there later in the day, or on bigger days, I've walked right past without showing my badge.

Not sure, I think its like $7 or $8 though

If you show up before the checkers get there, you don't need them. Ticketable? No, Arrestable, well if you run past a checker I'm sure they can charge you with trespassing or whatever. But you are obviously going out of your way to get on the beach free even though its not "free" time. Its basically stealing.

Guards, checkers, police enforcement, clean up, dredging, excess goes back to the town.

What would you need your ID for?

 

"I used to go out almost every morning in Long Branch before work and I always had to hang my bag on the fence to keep it from getting run over by the beach rake. Those things are expensive to buy and to operate. Lifeguards are expensive. Someone has to pay."

Why? They don't even NEED guards. all the legislature needs to is pass a hold harmless law for beach towns so they can't be sued for drownings.

btw..NJ does not have the lowest crime rate..per the census bureau it's 26th

http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank21.html

 

Fishing Rod = Free Pass

For anyone who may or may not know. For any beach in NJ from Sandy Hook to Cape May they cannot charge you for having a fishing rod.

So for anyone who has to pay or is not sure grab your board and a rod and go ride. If someone tries to make you pay tell them to go scratch, can't legally charge you.

 

Yeah they can't charge you but they don't have to let you on the beach. Like you can't surf in the middle of the day on any beach, you can't surfcast in the middle of the day either.

Bahaha you really crack me up. You really think the county pays the lifeguards? I'm not sure if you missed it, but I do WORK for Manasquan beach, and Monmouth County does not pay the guards. You should learn YOUR facts before you try to correct someone elses.

 

I was prefacing all those points with "some of" at the beginning of the sentence. Brick Twp. is the 3rd safest town in the country. Toms River is #9. The top 100 are full of towns in NJ. Most of the violent crime in the state happens in 10 cities (out of 566).

http://www.househunt.com/safe-cities/

Sure, you can pass a hold harmless clause and get rid of the lifeguards. But you still need money to clean the beach, pick up the trash, pay for police and ambulance service, etc.

The general public would never go along with getting rid of lifeguards. Even if you could get rid of them you'd wind up with drownings that first year that would be pushing 100, mostly bennies, but still. You'd wind up with more fights on the beach because people would be trying to fish, surf, and swim in the same places. People would get scare and eventually tourism would take a hit . . . drownings would drop off a little bit but still stay high enough to keep people away.

No lifeguards is fine when you're in hicksville . . . in the outerbanks, in parts of SC, Georgia, even some parts of the west coast of Florida. but go to any city with a beach (which is what the Jersey Shore is), Va. Beach, Wrightsville Beach, Myrtle Beach, any city in Florida, LA, San Diego even friggin' Chicago . . . and you'll find one lifeguard stand after another.

 

I agree - everyone who does not like it should skip surfing NJ. It's a messed up system. Just pass on by. OCNJ is by far the worst, and 56th St is just insane. Save yourself the headache.

 

the individual town pays the lifeguards not the county in NJ

 

Atleast one person agrees with me. And I know I'm not wrong.

 

Tbing it's ok, its part time work, you don't need to be such a hard-on.

Look people If you haven't figured out how to avoid paying summer tags then you are an idiot and deserve to pay twice! I have been surfing for 20 years and have never payed for a tag while coming to or leaving the beach.

 

Trust me, if you saw me actually at work, you would know I couldn't care a bit. When people "sneak" on the beach, they call me cause thats my job. I usually walk on and say "why did you do that? just tell them you work here" then walk back to the badge checker and say they had badges.

It just bothers me that some p.o.s. disrespects me.

 

Well its the internet and you need to get over that because it makes you look like a douche when you argue silly points and get pissed over faceless and toothless banter. Plus your status as a 19 year old know it all is inflammatory as a rule.